smoking ban??

[harmony802005]

hi there
Hi there i am new to this site and dont know if i should post this here i have been looking around the net and cant find any information on the smoking ban such as leftlets just wonderd if anyone new any sites where you can get them from thanks
harmony xxx

[frugalmacdugal]

Hi,

take it you're not in Scotland, 'cos we've had it here for over a year now.

Come to Scotland: smell the difference!!!

This site (http://www.thesite.org/drinkanddrugs/drugsafety/smoking/smokingban) will give you some info, as regards leaflets, contact your local council, you should be able to get plenty.

[harmony802005]

nope im not lol just wanted to get as much infor as poss thanks for ur help

[PeteHerts]

http://www.thesite.org/drinkanddrugs/drugsafety/smoking/smokingban

http://www.nosmokinglaw.co.uk/

Try these 2.

Lovely name by the way

[harmony802005]

r thanks about the name and thanks for the addys xx

[thomasbentley]

whoopie,
long overdue, wales comes second to scotland but we beat the english!!
ironically youll fine when you go to cafes and pubs abnd the weather is good you will still go inside, if you dont want to smell like an ashtray from head to toe
tb

[rmg1]

Why is it, someone always has to make a comment on the fact that the smoking ban is "finally" coming into play?
There's a thread in the Arms (I think) about this subject which makes interesting reading.

[exel1966]

Why is it, someone always has to make a comment on the fact that the smoking ban is "finally" coming into play?
There's a thread in the Arms (I think) about this subject which makes interesting reading.

Why is it that someone always has to make a comment on people expressing their view about smoking 'finally' coming into play ?

Finally, because society has moved on and unlike smokers will not be left in the past. It's an open forum, if they feel the need to express their view, they can.

Counting down the days til the whole of the UK bans smoking ! A very happy EX Smoker !!
:D

[rmg1]

And welcome to a time when you income tax and NI contributions are going to go through the roof.
:confused:

And maybe this thread would be worth a read .....
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=379396

[pastmaster]

An interesting practice has resulted in parts of Scotland over the past year as a result of people having to smoke outside - the lads meet the lassies and the result is.......

http://www.collins.co.uk/wordexchange/Sections/AppealBoard/Definition.aspx?def=554&dict=2&pg=107

[rmg1]

Are they really going to allow that as a word?

[pastmaster]

Are they really going to allow that as a word?

I think that this all depends upon how frequently and widely a word is used - note "bouncebackability" last year.
It is being used fairly widely just now.

[rmg1]

The only problem with that word is you can't get it in Scrabble!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[DUKE]

Anyone fancy a roll-up :-/

[rmg1]

Is that a politically correct question, these days?
:confused: :rotfl:

[harmony802005]

i didnt mean to start a heated debate

[rmg1]

The only reason that this becomes a heated debate is that most of the non-smokers see most of the smokers akin to lepers. They seem to forget that people smoking pay around £8billion (yes, billion) to the Government and only request around £1.2billion in NHS treatment.

OK, we all know that smoking is bad for you, but then again, so is too much saturated fat, salt, breathing exhaust fumes and getting carbon monoxide into your lungs, and a whole list of other things.

I quit smoking 6 years ago. My OH still smokes around 20 a day but that is her choice. I suppose the non-smoking brigade want me to harangue her into quitting?

It has been proven by the Governments own figures that smoking is at least third on the list of dangerous activities (alcohol and drug habits are far higher up the list than smoking in terms of NHS-resource requirements).

[skyrocket]

The point is that if you eat saturated fats, salt, drink yourself into a stupor or take as many drugs as your mind can stand that only affects YOU.
If you smoke around other people they are affected as well.
I am an ex-smoker myself but why I ever smoked will forever remain a mystery to me.
It is a disgusting, deplorable and selfish habit when people smoke around others. If you want to smoke yourself to death go for it but leave me out of it.
Bring on the ban.

[rmg1]

But, apparently, you are quite happy for yobbos to get drunk and start a fight which may involve innocent bystanders, costs the police/NHS time, money and resources they can ill afford (yes, they're all pleading poverty again!).

Or maybe you are happy for someone to turn to crime to fund a drug habit, which will again cost the police (theoretically at least) time/money/resources as well as costing the NHS time/money/resources when they've finally come to their senses and decide they want to quit drugs.

And you want to know the one thing I find most annoying ....... if I was a drug user and wanted to stop, I would get Methadone free on the NHS. If I wanted help to stop smoking, I would have to pay for the patches and/or gum!

So, who's costing this country most?

[harmony802005]

ok well i will just say that i dont smoke around anyone that i know its just respect but at the same time smoking helps me cope with stress as i have alot of that in my life,i just think we shouldnt be told where we can smoke we all have rights in this world but ppl seem to forget that,even when i go out to dinner and its a smoking place i dont have one at all i go outside if i need to xxx

[rmg1]

I just wonder what will be next?
The Government is banning smoking in enclosed public areas. Will it be smoking in my home, next?

[queensway_boy]

I just wonder what will be next?
The Government is banning smoking in enclosed public areas. Will it be smoking in my home, next?

It should be,why should your neighbours suffer passive smoking as your smoke filters through to their house

[rmg1]

If you want to go in that particular direction, ban all driving around my home as the carbon monoxide fumes will filter in and could cause all sorts of diseases.
There are far more toxins in exhaust fumes from cars/lorries/planes than in cigarettes.
I can easily envisage a society where all smoking is banned and then goes underground (American Prohibition springs to mind). Meanwhile, everyones Tax/NI contributions go up. This causes people to demand pay rises in order to continue the life they are used to. This has the knock-on effect of increasing inflation, which forces an interest rise from the Bank of England in order to control it. Mortgage rates then go up and the whol cycle starts again.
Also, the air carriers are currently thinking about increasing prices in order to try and do something about offsetting their carbon footprint.
So, soon we will be back to the state where only the rich can afford to travel by air and go abroad on their hols.
Anyone disagree?

[immoral_angeluk]

Roll on 1st July. Can't wait to be able to go out to a pub for a quiet drink and not have to wash my hair 15 times because it stinks of smoke.

[rmg1]

And still people are missing the fact that the money the Government loses in tax will have to be regained from somewhere else.
I see 4 choices.
1) A cut in public services
2) A Tax/NI hike
3) A hike in VAT or a new tax introduced.
4) A rise in council tax as central Government reduces the cash given to local councils for local services.

[skyrocket]

But, apparently, you are quite happy for yobbos to get drunk and start a fight which may involve innocent bystanders, costs the police/NHS time, money and resources they can ill afford (yes, they're all pleading poverty again!).


And where in my post did I say this?

I believe in live and let live, however anyone who does something, be it drinking, fighting, drugs or smoking, which affects other people negatively is wrong in my book.

Can you outline a situation where other people breathing in your smoke whether they like it or not, just because you feel you have the right to smoke wherever you want, could be deemed a positive thing?

Also no-one is saying you CAN'T smoke - we just don't want you doing it near us!

I also think it should be illegal to smoke around children anywhere. In public or in the home. People that subject children to their smoke are a disgrace.

[iglimpse]

Try Dept of Health website for lots more info.

Smokers should not be treated any different to anyone else, or made to feel guilty by anyone.

I have waited a long time for this, I deal with so many people who just cannot give up...until they cross the door of the cardiac unit, the choice is then no longer theirs.

Many say their weakest point is when they go out socialising to the pub which is understandable. Now they will have to make a concious effort to go outside - less of an excuse. It's OK if you don't have any health problems (95% of you soon will), I am talking about those who already have serious circulation problems and are within a year of amputation, (or expensive clever surgery to try and avoid it). I can't wait to hear what the excuse will now be "I was dragged out there"??

I have some sympathy with older people (70+), many of whom were given fags free in the forces. Younger ones have made their own decsions.

I know many people rely on fags to wind down and take a break. However, we do know that nicotine does not cure stress. Relaxing is great and we all need it, but you don't need fags to do it. It is very stressful to even think about stopping smoking!

There are always exceptions, the 60 a day man who lived happily till 95...and the very health conscious who suffer serious illness. Life just is not fair.

Yes the UK may go bankrupt if fags were banned...lets suck it and see - worth the risk surely?

There is no disputing the facts, smoking seriously damages your health. You may not notice anything at all until your 40-50's. You might still live to a good age but with a miserable quality of life.

[Quietgirl]

Well i am an x smoker and i am selfishly looking forward to the ban as the ban will remove the temptation of wanting one if i smell it.

[Gordon the Moron]

I'm an ex-smoker who is looking forward to the ban tremendously too but not because of temptation.

I started smoking aged about 14 or 15, I gave up when I was nearly 19 so I smoked for a fair while (not that long but long enough to get addicted)

When I was about 12 or 13 a friend of the family (she was 45) was told she had cancer of the lungs and it had spread to her kidneys, liver and bones, she was unlikely to live more than 3 months (she lived healthily apart from smoking, she always ate healthily, exercised a lot and seemed healthy but she smoked about 50-60 per day) sadly I didn't think about that when I started but as she got worse and worse (she seemed determined to go on, after the diagnosis she would live at most 3 months she lived for nearly 6 years) but it just started bugging me as I heard how bad she was getting, first she lost a kidney (and the other one was weakening) her liver was going, her bones were getting weak, when she did eventually succumb to its deadly grip (aged 52) I swore that day that I would never smoke again... I threw my last packet in the bin and I haven't had one since... I didn't use any replacements just will power and sheer determination (it was hard, very hard but I was just bloody determined not to give in, I would just think of our friend dying slowly and painfully, bravely but in vain fighting for her life). It was the best decision I have ever made, apart from the long term damage that will never happen now because I stopped so young I felt better, more energy, more full of life, more like going out and doing stuff within a couple of weeks, I hadn't realised just how much better I used to feel.

Anyway leaving aside my reasons for quitting, I would always have supported the ban, smoking was my decision and if I wanted to I would start again now (I don't) but why should others around me breath in noxious fumes? Whenever I was out I would always go outside for a fag regardless of whether somewhere was non-smoking or not.

I'm not advocating banning smoking altogether (though I do think it should be illegal around children anywhere, as someone pointed out that is just disgusting and selfish) but I believe everyone should have the right to choose whether to breathe in smoke or NOT as they see fit. They shouldn't have to decide to avoid certain public places or change their job (or not take a certain job) to fit in with that decision. I can't wait for July 1st, if the ban had been in place when a lot of the smokers on here started I doubt you would have done would you? Knowing the inconvenience it may have put you off, do you want your children to grow up to be smokers? I somehow doubt it (if you do you're a f*cking idiot) so isn't anything likely to put them off worth the small sacrifice of stepping outside a door for gods sake.