What do you think - Clio to buy or not to buy? [Archive]

DavidHM

30-01-2007, 10:36 AM

Pros: well equipped, quite stylish, quite safe

Cons: three doors only at this price, not the most modern car on the road, not that quick or economical, not very spacious and has unreliability problems. Must have the timing belt changed at 5 years/60k as it has a reputation for early failure.

A Fiat Panda (http://www.fiatsupasaver.com/panda.htm) would be even cheaper, with air con and five doors (!) and more spacious.

A Kia Picanto would be about the same money, have five doors and more space but it's not as pretty or as safe in a crash but it is likely to be more reliable.

A Peugeot 107 (http://www.peugeotstalbans.co.uk) would be cheapest to run on insurance, fuel and tax and although it's more basic, it's only £5,495.

For all that, the Clio is quite a charming, compelling mainstream car whereas the others, for all their strengths, do feel a bit more "budget" than it does and so I wouldn't rule it out, but you definitely have alternatives.

Poppy9

30-01-2007, 10:55 AM

Cons: three doors only at this price, not the most modern car on the road, not that quick or economical, not very spacious and has unreliability problems. Must have the timing belt changed at 5 years/60k as it has a reputation for early failure. Agree 3 doors is the downside, I currently have a 5 door Corsa. I don't have young children (DD12) so getting in the back is not so much a problem now. It is a second car and doesn't need to be quick as I only have a 4 mile round trip to work. OH will use it sometimes to for getting to work - bit further but easier to find parking space. Not intending to keep for 5 years, two max.

A Fiat Panda (http://www.fiatsupasaver.com/panda.htm) would be even cheaper, with air con and five doors (!) and more spacious. Didn't like the Panda

A Kia Picanto would be about the same money, have five doors and more space but it's not as pretty or as safe in a crash but it is likely to be more reliable. Too ugly for me.

A Peugeot 107 (http://www.peugeotstalbans.co.uk) would be cheapest to run on insurance, fuel and tax and although it's more basic, it's only £5,495. I tried one of these at the motor show. Found it too small.

Tried the KA too but found it too basic and OH said he wouldn't drive it. We do tend to take 1st car in the drive unless going on a trip or somewhere where parking is a problem.

I like my Corsa but the same spec is too expensive (I've a GLS).

I do love the new Clio, but again is more than I want to spend if I want remote CL and EW. The Campus comes with these as standard.

Hintza

30-01-2007, 11:03 AM

The Mitsubushi Colt also gets a good write up.

Personally I am a fan of the Panda why not have a test drive?

mini_mad_dad

30-01-2007, 11:12 AM

the car itself is great, we have one along side with my mini. but to cut long story short Google the words renault clio problems!

we've had one for a year now and we had more than enough with it...
depreciation is high on these due to the faults to. he he steer clear.

Poppy9

30-01-2007, 11:21 AM

Form HONEST JOHN WEBSITE:

June 2001 Renault was rated by Motor Warranty Direct as Britain's joint 4th worst out of 22 marques for used car warranty claims. 18th from bottom for reliabilty in Auto Express 2002 reader survey of 100 models. Renault had above average warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 114.24 v/s lowest 31.93). Average warranty repair costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 101.16 v/s lowest 31.93). Link:- www.reliabilityindex.co.uk (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/redirect.php?http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/default.html?apc=311) 27th from bottom out of 137 models in 2003 Top Gear survey. Least reliable out of 10 Superminis in 2006 Reliability Index survey. Yert in complete contradiction in the 2006 Which survey, the same model Clio came second best among superminis with a 92% score.

Also what does this mean: Replaced with new car on same platform as new Nissan Micra in 2005.

DavidHM

30-01-2007, 11:45 AM

Replaced with new car on same platform as new Nissan Micra in 2005.

The new, larger Clio, although it doesn't look like it, has a lot of parts in common with the Nissan Micra.

Apart from the diesel engines, the old Clio doesn't have much Micra in it at all and in fact a lot of it is a hangover from the Renault 5 "Supercinq" from the 80s :shocked:

Poppy9

30-01-2007, 12:26 PM

The new, larger Clio, although it doesn't look like it, has a lot of parts in common with the Nissan Micra.

Apart from the diesel engines, the old Clio doesn't have much Micra in it at all and in fact a lot of it is a hangover from the Renault 5 "Supercinq" from the 80s :shocked:

Sorry to appear stupid but if I buy a brand new Clio Campus am I getting the old car or the new car. I understood it's a Clio II not a Clio III which is the new shape and bigger - but much more expensive.

pinkfluffybabe

30-01-2007, 8:26 PM

The clio campus is the entry level version of the previous generation Clio (e.g. Mark 2). You are getting the old one. See here: http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/Review.aspx?model=1405

saintjanet

31-01-2007, 1:23 PM

Have you seen the watchdog reports on clio bonnets flying open at speed?Very worrying if you are buying one,Renault deny there is a problem!!

Poppy9

31-01-2007, 6:03 PM

Have you seen the watchdog reports on clio bonnets flying open at speed?Very worrying if you are buying one,Renault deny there is a problem!! The watchdog report also showed that the newer clios had a modified bonnet clip.

5alive

31-01-2007, 7:00 PM

clios came up 1 star out of 5 for safety in european safety checks, apparently not that durable in crashes.

I'm thinking of buying one of these. (http://www.renault.co.uk/OfferDetails.aspx?si=127508&mi=1121&ti=21&vi=2495) Good price for new car me thinks.

Pros?
Cons?

5alive

31-01-2007, 7:05 PM

go onto http://www.euroncap.com/ for results of Reno clio crash test

QUOTE=5alive]clios came up 1 star out of 5 for safety in european safety checks, apparently not that durable in crashes.[/QUOTE]

saintjanet

31-01-2007, 7:42 PM

The watchdog report also showed that the newer clios had a modified bonnet clip.Sorry ,i must be getting confused,i thought you were buying the last model,not the brand new model which is not modified but has a different type of catch.As i said earlier Renault will not admit there was ever a problem so they will not do a recall on the older models.

rikbar

31-01-2007, 9:03 PM

Hi poppy9,

I would steer well clear of this vehicle, you are thinking of buying a Clio II which is the vehicle with the dodgy bonnet clip and the one that came last out of 10 super minis for reliability, the reason it did really well in the next report was because the Clio III was being tested instead, which is a much much better car.

My girlfriend has a Clio II, bought brand new when they released the next model at a great discount. The discount was deserved though as the car has had faults, one after the other, and even left her stranded on the side of the M5 for hours whilst less than a year old (electrical fault). Renault are improving slightly but some models are still old and therefore unreliable, if you want a good deal buy anything but French, they are cheap for a reason.

Poppy9

31-01-2007, 9:31 PM

I was in work today and everybody told me not to buy their model/make car with the exception of the Toyota & Scoda owners:o Does nobody like their car or do they want to keep it exclusive in the car park:rolleyes:

Need_More_Money

31-01-2007, 9:34 PM

Everyone I know who's had a Renault car has had loads of problems with them. They also rate fairly badly at http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/

pinkfluffybabe

31-01-2007, 9:42 PM

clios came up 1 star out of 5 for safety in european safety checks, apparently not that durable in crashes.

Rubbish! :rolleyes:

It has a 5 star Euro NCAP safety rating. One of the safest small cars on the road!!

I have just traded in my mark 2 clio for a mark 3. The mark 2 never broke down on me once and so far, one month in, the mark 3 is excellent.

Yes, the car does score badly on the reliability index and yes many drivers have problems. But when I was deciding what car to buy at new year, I didn't find a single make/model that no one had had a problem with. Sometimes it is the luck of the draw.

It is safe small car, it is well designed and enjoyable to drive. Beyond that it is really down to personal preference. Take a test drive and see what you think.

Need_More_Money

31-01-2007, 9:50 PM

Rubbish! :rolleyes:

Yes, the car does score badly on the reliability index and yes many drivers have problems. But when I was deciding what car to buy at new year, I didn't find a single make/model that no one had had a problem with. .

I'm sure that is true to some extent. You'll always find someone who's had a good experience with a particular car and others who've had bad experiences. However, I've never heard as many people say bad things about a make of car as I have about Renault. The reliability index seems to back that up as a larger sample.

It seems that Japanese cars are the way to go! For small cars, the Yaris always seems to get great reviews. Although, I think the new Corsas are now getting good reviews too, so maybe the non-Japanese manufacturers are catching up

Poppy9

31-01-2007, 9:56 PM

The Yaris is a nice car but it starts at £8k which is more than I want to pay.

Price is a factor and I have to weigh up whether it's reliabilty issues of the Clio will cost the extra £2k over the time I own it.

Need_More_Money

31-01-2007, 9:59 PM

Poppy9

31-01-2007, 10:07 PM

Of course, it's not very MSE to buy a brand new car, since they depreciate in value so much the minute you drive them away from the dealer. Have you considered buying a 1 or 2 year old car instead. Much better value for money? Second hand market around my area is very overpriced. Do I want to pay £4500 for a 2 year old car with goodness knows what problems or £6k for a brand new with a warranty.

michaels

31-01-2007, 10:09 PM

Rubbish! :rolleyes:

It has a 5 star Euro NCAP safety rating. One of the safest small cars on the road!!

New CLio III is 5* NCAP, but the deal seems to be on a new 'Clio II' so probably not 5*

How about the new punto, looks nice, I have had several small fiats with no reliability problems at all (don't ask about the larger ones).

michaels

31-01-2007, 10:13 PM

You have my blessings as long as it's not that Fiat toadmobile multipla....:rotfl:
It is so sad to only want a car if it looks like every other one...in life are you always a follower?...and my Fiat multipla is incrediby practical, and you can now buy the restyled superbland one if you don't like being an individual.

steveeeee

31-01-2007, 10:28 PM

Very good price for a new car. But as others have said, it's a Renault, and while they're improving again, they're still not particularly good cars. Especially the Mark 2 Clio which has the Watchdog-publicised issue with the bonnet catch, and general reliability problems.

Does it have to be a brand new car? Buying a two- or three-year-old car will take the initial sting out of the depreciation.

For about £6k you could pick up a 55 reg Toyota Yaris (according to autotrader.co.uk for my area), or maybe a slightly older Corolla. Or an almost-new Mazda2 (bit ugly, but my wife loved it when I had one as a courtesy car). Both Mazda and Toyota have a good rep for reliability.

The Ford Focus (it would be old shape at that price) is a great car, as is the Fiesta (Mazda-developed engines in both). That amount will also get you a 54 reg VW Polo, maybe even a diesel, though that will likely have a high milage for its age. My wife drives a 2001 Y reg Polo Match which has been completely trouble-free up until this year: the exhaust sounds like it's on the way out.

Not sure about remote locking on any of these, but air con and electric windows seem to be widespread enough.

Edit: If you're worried about warranty, there's always the option to get one from somewhere like http://warrantydirect.co.uk. Or if you buy a used car that's still in its warranty period from a franchised dealer, you may get the option to extend the manufacturer's warranty for a year or three (for a price, natch).

Need_More_Money

01-02-2007, 8:54 AM

Edit: If you're worried about warranty, there's always the option to get one from somewhere like http://warrantydirect.co.uk. Or if you buy a used car that's still in its warranty period from a franchised dealer, you may get the option to extend the manufacturer's warranty for a year or three (for a price, natch).

Also, if you buy from a main dealer you might get a warranty anyway. I know Toyota cars come with a 1 year warranty if the car is not still covered by the initial 3 year warranty

DavidHM

01-02-2007, 10:24 AM

If you are considering a Yaris, you can get a new shape one less than a year old for under £7,000 - plenty on the Trader, still with two years' warranty and will be worth more second hand than the Clio when you sell on in any event.

plane_boy2000

01-02-2007, 6:42 PM

New CLio III is 5* NCAP, but the deal seems to be on a new 'Clio II' so probably not 5*

How about the new punto, looks nice, I have had several small fiats with no reliability problems at all (don't ask about the larger ones).

OP is looking at Clio II which is 4 star acording to the euro n cap site.

Ckio is comfortable, but not known to be reliable, although bear in mind all the guys who are complaining are the unhappy ones - most people will have no problems and as such will say nothing.

The cheif exec of renault has himself admitted that they need to work on reliability so new models are likely to be better.

VW Fox is possible an option? http://www.vw.co.uk/new_cars/fox

Starts at about 6.5K

neil1965

01-02-2007, 6:54 PM

Would agree with the above post. I bought a new 1.2 dynamiqe in july 04 have driven 53,000 trouble free miles. Seems to me that the good ones are good but the bad ones are very bad!

Poppy9

06-02-2007, 5:12 PM

Still haven't made my mind up. Went to Renault showroom today to look at the car. I sat in it, had a good look around etc and the 2 salesmen sat chatting and completely ignored me so I left. Do they not like lone females:confused: I was smartly dressed with my lippie on but they obviously didn't think I was buying!

Went to Fiat to look at their new cars. Hated, hated, hated the Panda. The Punto was a bit better but not for me.

feesh

06-02-2007, 6:40 PM

Poppy I had similar experiences with salesmen - they all completely ignored me. In the end I found a dealer 300 miles away with the car I wanted by using the internet, and put the deposit down over the phone (I wouldn't recommend this unless you really know what you are looking for!!! Its a long story but I did know this car's history, because a local dealer had actually offered me the very same car previously - but he'd secretly whacked on a small premium, obviously to cover his costs of bringing it over from the other dealer and a nice little extra in his own pocket. I just got the same car direct and for less).

I would really recommend you stay away from Clios - French cars are known to have electrical niggles. In fact my boyfriend and I have recently started playing a silly game of counting how many French cars we see broken down on the motorways when we go out and it's usually about 80%!!!!! (My uncle is a Peugeot dealer and all my family apart from me have Peugeots so we do it to take the pee out of them).

I would go with German or Japanese if I were you.

When I bought my car, I really couldn't afford the one I wanted (Seat Leon) but I eventually got one by finding this little gem, as I said before it was in a dealers over 300 miles away - it had hardly any miles on it and was very cheap considering. It was advertised as an ex-Seat UK car and I have since found out that it was one of their press demonstrator cars from when the Leon was 1st launched - hence it was in tip-top condition and therefore had absolutely none of the usual niggles you expect with the Leon. And it hadn't been hammered.

All dealerships sell off their ex demonstrator cars every 3 or 4 months at discounted prices - could you not get one of these?

Also don't forget that there is a lot of room for manoeuvre even on those prices.

My Uncle gets us all a 20% family discount at Peugeot, but my Mum and I have both been able to beat even this just by shopping around and playing one dealer off against another.

Good luck, and rise above those slimy salesmen - they soon start talking to you when they realise you actually want to spend money!!!

lambo28

06-02-2007, 6:43 PM

I have a 06' Clio Campus and it is quite reliable, i am saying quite because the boot door's remote central locking broke and i had to use string to tie it to the back headrest in case it flys open as i was going down the motorway! In my opinion, a very good car and buy it

feesh

06-02-2007, 6:46 PM

VW Fox is possible an option? http://www.vw.co.uk/new_cars/fox

Starts at about 6.5K
I know I said go for German but I've heard very bad things about the Fox, I don't think they come up to the usual VW standards by a long shot (think they might be built in Mexico?)

DealDrivers company representative

06-02-2007, 7:18 PM

Don't focus too much on just negative views, everyone loves to say what they dislike about cars but you've also had some good sensible constructive & positive advice too from earlier posters...
...balance it with the fact that millions of people buy used and newcars every year and are perfectly happy - they don't visit motoring forums as they have nothing to seek help or advice about as they don't have a problem.

Forums, whilst fantastic resources for good advice, can - by their nature - have the effect of overemphasising people's personal dislikes about car choices (a forum set up where people could only post positive messages about a product or service would get few posts, it's human nature I think!)

I sense you're getting worried about every car under the sun having 'problems'...don't be. For every make and model there'll always be people equally delighted and disappointed with engines, seat comfort, noises, servicing costs, oile leaks, design quirks, knobs, trims, breakdown experiences and 'funny smells' etc! Have confidence in your own judgement alongside general advice on good forums. I've made bad decisions too on cars in the past but I don't label the product as bad just because it didn't suit me personally (I'm in one at the moment..it's for sale!).

Keep your budget in your mind and look within that, test drive it, and don't get overly worried by tales of disaster - cars are mechanical things and never infallible. Problems people have experienced are clearly of concern and worth looking into but hatches like clio's have sold by the million because more people like them rather than dislike them. My mum's in one of the last old shapes and hasn't had a single problem.

Buying a used car is like buying any other 2nd hand piece of mechanical or electrical equipment, you take a risk and parts fail eventually, plus you don't know how it's been driven before you got it, so if you go into it with open eyes and don't expect it to be in new showroom condition you'll not get too mad if something needs attention.

You can currently pick up new Fiesta Styles (3dr 1.25 and 1.4) for under £7.5k and 1.2 Fox can be bought new for under £6.6k even with metallic paint costed in, if that puts things in perspective a bit for you.

bingobango

06-02-2007, 8:18 PM

Still haven't made my mind up. Went to Renault showroom today to look at the car. I sat in it, had a good look around etc and the 2 salesmen sat chatting and completely ignored me so I left. .

don't moan! that's a great thing to happen, being able to sit in a car and look at it WITHOUT hassling salesmen! :T

plane_boy2000

13-02-2007, 7:19 PM

I know I said go for German but I've heard very bad things about the Fox, I don't think they come up to the usual VW standards by a long shot (think they might be built in Mexico?)

Made in Brazil for that market, but VW made a few changes, increased spec etc for the European market as a replacement for the Lupo. Not heard any negative feedback on it, and thought that the reviewes on it were fairly complimentary

Poppy9

17-02-2007, 1:19 PM

arrowsmith

17-02-2007, 1:27 PM

Pressure on. Sold my car today for £500 more than I was offered in P-ex by Renault.:T

Still very tempted by the Clio being Brand new and under £6k with EW,CL and CD player (thrown in). Do you think I can get any money off the £6k.

You can have a new Mitsubishi colt for under 6k, or a Kia Picanto, much better cars.

Poppy9

17-02-2007, 1:28 PM

You can have a new Mitsubishi colt for under 6k, or a Kia Picanto, much better cars. Sorry but looks matter for the Kia and I can't see the Colt under £6k!!

peterg1965

17-02-2007, 1:28 PM

Honest John likes the Panda, but I reckon the renault Clio is ok, wouldnt keep it past the three year warranty period though.

Poppy9

17-02-2007, 1:35 PM

Honest John likes the Panda, but I reckon the renault Clio is ok, wouldnt keep it past the three year warranty period though. I don't intend to keep it past 2 years.

Need_More_Money

17-02-2007, 1:48 PM

Toyota Aygo only just over £6k

lisahobden

18-02-2007, 10:56 AM

Pressure on. Sold my car today for £500 more than I was offered in P-ex by Renault.:T

Still very tempted by the Clio being Brand new and under £6k with EW,CL and CD player (thrown in). Do you think I can get any money off the £6k.

yes! Now you have nothing to part ex with, go in to the showroom and ask what their lowest price could be. Search on the internet first to see what the prices are like, and get them to match it!

DavidHM

18-02-2007, 11:46 AM

Lowest internet price I can get: £7 off :confused: But good luck and they're hardly going to turn round and chuck a couple of hundred extra on for trying to negotiate, are they?

Need_More_Money

18-02-2007, 11:50 AM

Also, once they've knocked off as much as you think they will. Start asking for other things like tax for 12 months (they'll probably then offer for 6 months) and floor mats etc

DavidHM

18-02-2007, 11:54 AM

Morty_007

18-02-2007, 12:07 PM

or failing everything else...a full tank of fuel. Every little heps!!

arrowsmith

18-02-2007, 3:50 PM

Sorry but looks matter for the Kia and I can't see the Colt under £6k!!
http://www.onedealer.co.uk/newoffers/colt.htm

There are a few other places that do it for that price as well.

Poppy9

19-02-2007, 6:11 PM

Renault say you get this included for £5,995:
Delivery to dealer
Number plates
17.5% VAT
12 months road fund licence
£38 first registration fee

So don't ask for tax, it's already in the price! But otherwise the above advice is helpful - I'd try hardest for free metallic paint but you'd be lucky to get it.

Full 3 years RAC is included. I questioned whether it was basic cover or full cover for me an any car and was told it is. That'll save me about £85 per year. Metallic paint is really what I would like or the Black something!! Been away for a short break so will get on the case tomorrow.

arrowsmith

20-02-2007, 12:19 AM

Full 3 years RAC is included. I questioned whether it was basic cover or full cover for me an any car and was told it is. That'll save me about £85 per year. Metallic paint is really what I would like or the Black something!! Been away for a short break so will get on the case tomorrow.

Full cover, don't think so for Renault and its worth getting if you buy one. Ask them if they charge extra for changing a tire !

ec9wrr

22-02-2007, 9:10 PM

What about a Citroen C2?

vansboy

22-02-2007, 10:29 PM

Here's my input Poppy...

Did you like your Corsa - some old model still available, so EXCELLENT discounts were on offer, prior to new model. Ask local dealer, then check www.honestjohn.co.uk clik This Weeks Best Deals on his site.

Panda you're not keen, how about Punto, new model pre-registered, again check HJ site.

Picanto is getting VERRRRY good following, so maybe worth a second look? New model due soon, so discounts, small though, are available.

The Colt deal is still be available.(again link on HJ's site)

& if you can afford a few more £$£$£ Suzuki Swift well worth considering.

The Clio deal is tempting, but you're getting less value for money & not quite such a good reputation as you've already read here!

VB

Poppy9

20-03-2007, 9:32 PM

Made my decision - at last. Car should be available for me by early next week. It's a Fiesta 1.25 Style (55 plate) with 11k miles on the clock. It's silver - I would have liked black as it's sexier but couldn't get one.

Vehicle_john

21-03-2007, 12:21 PM

Vehicle_john

21-03-2007, 8:20 PM

Cars are so personal but you need to do your homework first. Road test are one thing but if you buy the wrong car you have it for at least 2/3 years. Most cars are reliable and competitive in a very completive market all fighting for market.
First thing first, once you have decided which car to buy the next challenge is to it at the correct price, remember what ever profit the dealer makes you loose straight away on depreciation. My advice because I'm in the motor trade is to contact a car broker cutting out the main dealer. Try www.vehiclechoicelocator.co.uk. One final thought stick to main manufacturer the main reason is desirability for the future, Kia is a no for me but Vauxhall, Ford Volkswagen and Skoda which is now part the Volkswagen group including SEAT.

Silver is a great colour but its a shame the dealer could not get the colour you wanted, if its not to late ask the dealer if he attends the closed Ford auctions where they will be the colour of your choice. I am in the motor trade and i know Ford have in the region of 1600 vehicles a month that go through auction all pedigree stock as you would expect, if you need more just ask.

Poppy9

22-03-2007, 10:04 PM

Silver is a great colour but its a shame the dealer could not get the colour you wanted, if its not to late ask the dealer if he attends the closed Ford auctions where they will be the colour of your choice. I am in the motor trade and i know Ford have in the region of 1600 vehicles a month that go through auction all pedigree stock as you would expect, if you need more just ask.

Choice of colour not an option at the price I'm paying. I'm getting plenty of change from my £6k budget and the car is under warranty until Dec 08. Getting excited as I take delivery of it tomorrow. :T

Poppy9

24-03-2007, 12:00 PM

I had my car yesterday and I love it. :T :T :T I bought it unseen from a dealer 120 miles away so I hadn't tried the car out only similar ones locally. As a bonus it has steering wheel controls for the radio/cd player - wasn't expecting that and it's the face lift model so has the newer funky front and rear lights. :T :T :T

jonfev

24-03-2007, 12:07 PM

I guarantee if you post anything about any make of car all the negative traits of the human race will come to the fore and people will abvise you not to buy that car. Sure the Clio has a reputation for unreliabilty but if you dig down the common faults are mostly irritating. The two most common are the creaking sunroof and the service warning light that comes on because of a poorly designed connector under the passenger seat, neither of these will disable the car. Obviously the bonnet is an issue but I have to say I'm confused by the rantings on Watchdog. Just because they are high profile it doesn't mean they are completely right. The problem is with the safety catch and I agree if it is poorly maintained it won't work as it should. However a safety catch is only needed when the idiot owner doesn't shut the bonnet properly and the main catch doesn't engage, it is a back up device. Look around you, a lot of people can't even shut their doors let alone their bonnet!

Just to correct a few previous posters,

The Clio is poor on economy-Parkers Guide say the Diesel model broke the record for their most economical car ever.

Clio II only gets one star for safety - NCAP site says 4 stars for protecting occupants

Clios depreciate more than most because of unreliability-Simply not true, they are probably only average but prices have started to tumble because the new model has been introduced.

pinkfluffybabe

24-03-2007, 12:41 PM

bikersal

19-02-2008, 4:57 PM

I've owned three Renaults and a Peugeot, a Renault 19, Clio v1, Peugeot 205TD, Clio v2 and am now awaiting delivery of a new Clio III dci 86. Apart from a few minor electrical niggles they have all been excellent for reliability and economy and I just hope the new one is as good. The new model is supposed to be an even better build and my only concern is that it may be a bit slower with the increased weight but I can't imagine it will be that much different.

If buying used make sure it has a good service history including cam belt if over 5yrs old

cyclonebri1

20-02-2008, 8:59 AM

Not read all the posts but just to add that we bought our 52plte 1.5DCI new/ex dem, 192 miles. Today, 50k later it hasn't seen the inside of a gargage apart from an MOT or 2 and to fix a sunroof rattle under waranty. Thers always 2 sides,:beer:

Just read your choice, to be honest I think it is quite unusual to buy a bad car nowadays, the quality is so much better than 10 years ago, main think is you got the advise then made your own informed choice, and got some money saving advise thrown in, thats what it's all about.;)

Oppps, only just looked at the op date, about a year ago, I wonder how poppy is getting on with it,?????POPPY?