Which Large Estate?

[gingerdad]

I currently have a Mondeo Ghia Estate and it is due to be changed in the new year. The question is which new estate should i go for. I have been looking at the VW Passatt and the Peugeot 407SW... but just wondering if any one has run either and what are there thoughts, have already discounted the Saab 93.

or any other suggestions, what i order will be partly based on what leasing offers are around when we order.

Regards

GD

[philhuff]

It divides opinion, but the Vauxhall Vectra is a finer car than many people give credit for, and the estate version should certainly qualify as big. However, as with a Mondeo or 407, depreciation will be frightening, and that will likely hurt the lease offers available. Likewise, the Toyota Avensis.

SAAB are throwing money at 9-5's, and they'll certainly fit your needs, while Volvo V70 would probably also do the job you need. There's a good £3-4k available off both the SAAB and Volvo.

As a slightly off-centre option, how about a new Rover 75 / MG ZT estate? There's still a few kicking about, and you get an awful lot of metal for your money.

Sadly, I'm not as up to speed on lease plans as I'd like as I'm an outright purchase kind of guy myself, but hopefully there's at least some ideas for you there.

[Fleago]

If you're looking at the Passat, why not think about the Skoda Octavia Estate? I love mine and have no complaints about it whatsoever. :D

[Hintza]

There are some good lease plans around just now on Saab 9-3's (maybe not big enough) but worth a look.

here is an example:- http://www.tilsungroup.com/~sa_webapp/run.asp?page=917

[vansboy]

If you like the Mondeo, check out a Mazda 6 - it's really a been a test bed, for the new Mondeo available soon.

& as you seem to like high spec, depending on your budget, think of the £27,000ish Chrysler 300 - this WILL have a good residual value, initially, as it's a new model - so leasing figures will run accordingly.

As mentioned, the Vectra - really a Saab underneath, is more than an average car, these days!

VB

[moonrakerz]

Why change to another model ? The (TDCI) Mondeo is still the best in its class.

[chainguy]

I have a 2 month old passat TDi 140bhp estate with the DSG box.

Such a good car, and I used to make my living in the car trade, so feel qualified to talk.

You will not be dissapointed. If you want a full rundown on it, just say.

[Murphy_The_Cat]

GingerDad if you're looking for a LARGE estate, they don't come much larger than a C5 Estate - & if you plump for a 2 year old car they're disgustingly cheap.

Do you have a budget in mind ?

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[chainguy]

Yeah, there's a reason why there so cheap...

If you get one, taste the coffee in the Citroen garage when your in before you sign on the line. if you like it, go ahead.

You'll drink a lot of that coffee in the months to come.

[moonrakerz]

Yeah, there's a reason why there so cheap...

If you get one, taste the coffee in the Citroen garage when your in before you sign on the line. if you like it, go ahead.

You'll drink a lot of that coffee in the months to come.

Take a flask with you to drink in the recovery truck - when it won't start - again !

[cheekymole]

I'd agree with Fleago, Octavia Estate is my choice too

[aurora borealis]

How about a Saab 95 estate? I'm picking one up tomorrow ;)

[John_M_Business]

Hi there

Hope I'm not interrupting a discussion, but two of the cars mentioned above are available from our new website: CarQuake.

Octavia Estates: Between £1000 and £1800 off;
Mondeo Estates: Between £3400 and £5100 off.

I don't want to be seen as 'spamming' this list, so I should point out that this site was inspired by MSE discussions (and my membership of MSE for the last 2+ years). CarQuake cuts out the middleman in new car sales (generally the brokers) - i.e. it goes straight to the dealer offering just about the best discount. So when you enquire, your call is with/from the dealer, but you already have the price in your 'back pocket'. They can also discuss P/X etc.

Sorry, I didn't want to link from this article unless a link was requested from any of the posters for fear I would upset moderators.

[gingerdad]

If you're looking at the Passat, why not think about the Skoda Octavia Estate? I love mine and have no complaints about it whatsoever. :D

I don't think it is big enough, which is a shame, i fancy the little fabia vrs but work needs it to be big, but will deff test drive one

GD

[gingerdad]

There are some good lease plans around just now on Saab 9-3's (maybe not big enough) but worth a look.

here is an example:- http://www.tilsungroup.com/~sa_webapp/run.asp?page=917

I really like the saabs but i have a friend who runs a saloon and it has spent most of its life in the dealership and this has put me off and the fact the local dealership is 90 miles away, but may look at the 9-5

[gingerdad]

GingerDad if you're looking for a LARGE estate, they don't come much larger than a C5 Estate - & if you plump for a 2 year old car they're disgustingly cheap.

Do you have a budget in mind ?

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HI MTC, i had the joys of Xantia a few years ago and it spent a lot of time at John Wildings. Looking at about 300.00 per month + vat

Regards

GD

[chainguy]

Few points on this; I'm rushed for time just now.

New Passat is a lot bigger than the old one or the old tech Octavia. Its based on the Audi A6 platform, and is a seriously big car. Try one, you'll see.

Saab is just a Vectra, with similar build quality. One of the guys I work with got one as his company car in July. It broke down within 7 miles. A fuel valve had been incorrectly fitted near the diesel pump. Great.

You can also get the saab with massive upgrades for free - right now you can get leather interior and the 'sport' package for base money. They dont do that on a popular car, so be realistic when you ask yourself if your geting a great deal.

Good luck in what you decide, and if I can offer any advice, dont be afraid to PM me.

[Fleago]

I don't think it is big enough, which is a shame, i fancy the little fabia vrs but work needs it to be big, but will deff test drive one

GD

You might be pleasantly surprised at the size, gingerdad :) Our main criteria when getting a car is "boot space" size and we can get three very large dogs comfortably in, with room for them all to lie down. The spec we have actually comes with a false floor in the boot space, which makes it look as if there is a lot less depth in it, but once this is lifted out there is the normal flat bottom at a lower depth.

Oh, and the Octavia estate now comes in the go very fasty vrs version too, which is what I'm covetting for next time round. ;) :D

[Murphy_The_Cat]

Hi Gingerdad

my suggestion for C5 estate came for 3 reasons

2nd hand they're dirt cheap (although I now realise that leasing in your thing.
They're huge.
My MIL has had 3 years of hassle free motoring from her C5 saloon. (it sounds like she is in the minority).

I don't know what the leasing rates are like - but a Vectra or Accord or both 'Large' in the Estate department.

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[MrSmartprice]

Yeah, there's a reason why there so cheap...

If you get one, taste the coffee in the Citroen garage when your in before you sign on the line. if you like it, go ahead.

You'll drink a lot of that coffee in the months to come.

Absolute Nonsense!:rotfl:

I have run Citroens since 1990, and am currently on my fifth, a Berlingo. I have never been let down by a Citroen, and I have never had any large repair bills either. This one is now 5 years old and in that time has had 2 tyres and an exhaust replaced, in 60000 miles. I know I should have traded it in by now, but just love it!:cool:

In all that time, I have run one other make, a Ford. It was nothing but trouble, constantly in the dealers for warranty work, and to compound it the dealers were rubbish.:mad:

A friend has had a C5, though not the estate. He loved it, but now has a new C4 as it was a bit big for his needs. MrsS also has a Citroen, a C2, and FIL has a new Berlingo too.

[saintjanet]

Absolute Nonsense!:rotfl:

I have run Citroens since 1990, and am currently on my fifth, a Berlingo. I have never been let down by a Citroen, and I have never had any large repair bills either. This one is now 5 years old and in that time has had 2 tyres and an exhaust replaced, in 60000 miles. I know I should have traded it in by now, but just love it!:cool:

In all that time, I have run one other make, a Ford. It was nothing but trouble, constantly in the dealers for warranty work, and to compound it the dealers were rubbish.:mad:

A friend has had a C5, though not the estate. He loved it, but now has a new C4 as it was a bit big for his needs. MrsS also has a Citroen, a C2, and FIL has a new Berlingo too.Have to agree as regards citroen,although we have only had one for just over a year,we have had no problems,my neighbour has had citroens for about 8 years and i cant remember them ever going into the dealer for anything other than servicing.

[mikey-mike]

A4?

good build quality, depreciation not too bad, available with big & little diesels and a wide range of petrol engines (if you want close to supercar performance try the S4 or RS4)

You could also consider getting one of the four wheel drive versions (Quattro), nice and safe when the weather is bad and I think available with most engine choices

[chainguy]

Have to agree as regards citroen,although we have only had one for just over a year,we have had no problems,my neighbour has had citroens for about 8 years and i cant remember them ever going into the dealer for anything other than servicing.

Funny enough..all my family work in the motor trade, and I could fill a book with the faults on them.

In fact, my neighbour in my old house, was involved in a rather heated debate with Citroen last year about taking his Picasso back. Something about the fact it kept breaking down all the time. Not good on a brand new car at all.

Still, I dont do !!!!ing contests, so you pay you money, you take your choice. Be lucky.:beer:

[gingerdad]

Hi Gingerdad

my suggestion for C5 estate came for 3 reasons

2nd hand they're dirt cheap (although I now realise that leasing in your thing.
They're huge.
My MIL has had 3 years of hassle free motoring from her C5 saloon. (it sounds like she is in the minority).


I don't know what the leasing rates are like - but a Vectra or Accord or both 'Large' in the Estate department.
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Yep works paying, the sales manager for the printers we use has just got an accord, it looks good will see what we can get.

but wouldn't get any vauxhall as the local dealer is crap we have had no service from them with any of our vans. so have moved them to the renault version

GD

[Murphy_The_Cat]

Yep works paying, the sales manager for the printers we use has just got an accord, it looks good will see what we can get.

but wouldn't get any vauxhall as the local dealer is crap we have had no service from them with any of our vans. so have moved them to the renault version

GD

I wouldn't buy a wheelbarrow from Garhreaves !!

The only downer with the accord may be the leasing costs - the list price is high, but the lower depreciation rate may offset this.

Have you considered a Toyota Avensis estate.

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[gingerdad]

I wouldn't buy a wheelbarrow from Garhreaves !!

The only downer with the accord may be the leasing costs - the list price is high, but the lower depreciation rate may offset this.

Have you considered a Toyota Avensis estate.

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that'll will be the one, I am going to test drive a few at the weekend, will pop into Batemans see what versions of the avensis and the passat

GD

[-1-]

I would go for an Audi Avant, their great cars in their hatchback and saloon styles along with the reliability of a German engine and workmanship.

[mountainman]

I was thinking of getting an Audi Allroad.
Has anyone had one of these? Have heard the repair costs can be high!

[gingerdad]

Don't think i could stretch to an allroad, the thought would be nice.

GD