Glocosamine and wind

[needmoney]

Does Glucosamine give you wind - no need to explain why I'm asking.:o

They don't stink by the way but they are rumbly:rotfl:

[Ted_Hutchinson]

Glucosamine side effects (http://www.glucosamine-arthritis.org/glucosamine/glucosamine-side-effects.html) are listed here but problems with digestion only usually occur with major overdose so I suspect that something else must be giving rise to the "wind" You may find the liquid versions easier to digest. Another solution may be to buy the lower dose size and spread the dose, when you eat, through the day. But there may be others who have experienced this unfortunate effect.

More side effects information (http://www.arthritis-glucosamine.net/article-detail.php?ID=26) this one a bit stronger on the possible digestion problems High dosages of glucosamine may cause gastric problems, nausea , diarrhea, indigestion, and heartburn. Glucosamine should be taken with meals to help avoid these problems
So my initial suggestion to take a smaller dose with your meals.

[needmoney]

Thank you very much Ted.
My Arthritis has accelerated recently to many more joints and I have decided that for the moment, no matter what the hospital or Doctor says I am going to try and do without drugs and injections, I have read extensively and decided to give Glucosamine a proper go.

I have Goldshield 'GlucoxTM' - glucosamine sulphate 750mg with other ingredients.

[Ted_Hutchinson]

Thank you very much Ted.
My Arthritis has accelerated recently to many more joints and I have decided that for the moment, no matter what the hospital or Doctor says I am going to try and do without drugs and injections, I have read extensively and decided to give Glucosamine a proper go.

I have Goldshield 'GlucoxTM' - glucosamine sulphate 750mg with other ingredients.Vitamin D could prevent arthritis (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2969816.stm)I think that many people are not spending sufficient time in the sunshine to make enough vitamin d to correct the insufficiency they suffer in the Winter. Studies such as The Vitamin D requirement in health and disease. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=16026981&dopt=Abstract) suggest that much higher doses than are currently recommended are needed for optimal health. While it is easy to build up your reserves now if you are able to spend at least half an hour in the sun (with as little on as possible) from the end of September you will need a high strength vit d3 supplement unless you plan on going South for until the end of March. BIO–TECH Pharmacal Inc. (http://www.bio-tech-pharm.com/products/d35.html) sell 5000iu and taking one of these every other day will meet Heaney's suggestions though there are others who suggest 4000iu is better (well if you are depressed or pregnant)

Vitamin C can help beat arthritis (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3041485.stm)

Those in the lowest category of vitamin C intake, compared with the highest, increased their risk of developing IP (http://ard.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/63/7/843) While I'm all for people eating fruit and veg through the day I'm aware that it is easier to take a vitamin c tablet. If you choose this later option you need to be aware that the half life of vitamin c in the blood stream is as little as 30minutes. This means that eating fruit/veg through the day spaces out the intake of vitamin c. To mimic this with tablets you need to use the slow release forms or take a 1g tablet split it in 4 and take one every hour, if you do this through the day you will get 3g and obtain the highest level of vitc for the longest time. If it's halving every 30mins most is going down the loo if you just take high doses. Small doses spread through the day are the way to make you vitamin c effective.

Here's another paper with the same idea.
[/URL][url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=14637276&query_hl=9]Antioxidant status in rheumatoid arthritis and role of antioxidant therapy. (http://%5BSIZE=+1)
The antioxidant defense system is compromised in rheumatoid arthritis patients. There is a shift in the oxidant/antioxidant balance in favor of lipid peroxidation, which could lead to the tissue damage observed in the disease.The results suggest the necessity for therapeutic co-administration of antioxidants along with conventional drugs to such patients. Which is another good reason for eating plenty of fruit/veg.

[needmoney]

Thanks again Ted, hope your depressions isn't bad today plenty of sunshine around although too hot for me to be out for long.

I am impressed with your knowledge and your willingness to reply.

I got offered injections for both hands but refused for the moment as I've read about the complications and that they are painful:eek: the one I paid £140 for last year didn't work anyway.

So....I have been reading masses of stuff on the net and am trying alternatives and also trying to eat lots of the foods that I have found listed as good for reducuing the inflamation of Arthritis. also going to try and make some chicken stock although the recipes I've found don't allow for just the bones from one small chicken, one recipe called for 4lbs of bones:eek: :D

[Ted_Hutchinson]

Thanks again Ted, hope your depressions isn't bad today plenty of sunshine around although too hot for me to be out for long. Since I've started using high dose levels of vitamin d my depression has been no problem at all. I'm outside for a good while each day and find it really helps with both mood and energy levels. I used to have a continual pain in my ankles/wrists which now my vit d levels have built up has vanished. Not being in pain all the time does help my mood and reduces the number of occassion I've lost my temper.

How can my diet help protect me from sunburn? (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=144) is probably why I haven't had even the slightest hint of skin reddening. If you've read my posts you'll know I consume a fair amount of omega 3, vitamin c, I drink green tea through the day and take both vitamin e and selenium as well as eating lots of fruit and veg. Quite which is preventing me from burning I'm not sure but I do feel rather smug wandering around nearly nude while everyone else is either lurking indoors or complaining about the heat.
..........I have found listed as good for reducuing the inflamation of Arthritis. also going to try and make some chicken stock although the recipes I've found don't allow for just the bones from one small chicken, one recipe called for 4lbs of bones:eek: :DIf you have any real butchers where you live it would be worth asking for chicken bones. They have to pay to get rid of waste so giving their bones away actually saves them money and if they've been dividing chickens into portions they may well have a load to dispose of. If you add vinegar/lemon juice to your stock before you cook it you will dissolve more of the calcium. I find a pressure cooker speeds up the time to make stock.

[Ted_Hutchinson]

I have Goldshield 'GlucoxTM' - glucosamine sulphate 750mg with other ingredients.these cost, if you buy 3x60=180 for £12.95 7peach or 14p daily.
if you bought 360x 500mg glucosamin from Simply Supplements they would cost £5.59 (and would be less likely to give you wind) 1.5p each or as you need 3 daily 4.5p daily. You would be getting the same amount of glucosamine which is the active ingredient.

The other ingredients in Glucox are Green Tea Leaf30mg Turmeric Root30mg Rosemary Leaf25mg Oregano Leaf15mg
While it's possible the green tea and turmeric may be beneficial I think you'd be as well drinking real green tea made from the leaf and eating curries with Turmeric in them. I doubt that the Rosemary/orgegano are doing anything but if you've got them in the garden you'd be as well bunging a big bunch of the real stuff in that chicken stock your making It may or may not improve your arthritis but it will certainly improve the flavour.

[needmoney]

http://www.lewiston.k12.me.us/~dletourneau/gvcproject/welcome/images/thanks.gifGlad you're feeling better

[dbs]

Glucosime is normally made from shellfish which is no good for my system

Just bought vegeterian glucosime which is made from corn/maize (I think) hopefully my system will cope better with this than he shellfish variety.