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Ratty
14-07-2006, 1:47 PM
Hope this is the right place to post this...

Given that you can get a posh cheap/free haircut from student hairdressers on training nights, does anyone know if it's possible to offer oneself (as a victim) up to student dentists for similar training? I've got a lot of very strong but very badly discoloured teeth (cheers, childhood antibiotics!), and I know I'd be looking at a couple of thousand pounds as a conservative estimate to get them fixed even with an NHS dentist.

Does anyone have any experience of this? I'll start writing/phoning round anyway and post any interesting findings!

Many thanks in advance,
Ratty

pollocmc
14-07-2006, 2:07 PM
I don't know where you are based but I'm in Glasgow and can tell you the following. You can get free dental treatment at the Dental School if you meet a number of conditions like not being registered somewhere else, can spare the extra time it takes students, will turn up for ALL appointments etc.

Details here:
http://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/dental/quick_links/free_dental_treatment.pdf

I imagine other schools offer similar but dont know. If you let me know where you are I should be able to tell you where you nearest school is an a contact number.

PS. I will be a first-year there as of September so watch out if you end up there!!


HTH

Ratty
14-07-2006, 2:39 PM
I certainly meet all of those, it's one of the (very few) benefits of being self employed/unable to get on an NHS list/an insomniac that does their best work at 3am - I'm in London, so I would imagine there'd be a few. Doesn't matter which.

And all the best with the course. I almost wish I was Glasgow based to give you some teeth to practise on!

Ratty

pollocmc
14-07-2006, 2:52 PM
Here you go mate, best of luck.


London
Guy's, King's & St Thomas's Dental Institute
Guy's Tower, King's College London, SE1 9RT, London SE1 9RT
Tel: 020-7188 7188
Website: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/dentistry/



London
Barts and the London
Queen Mary's School of Medicine and Dentistry, Turner Street, London E1 2AD
Tel: 020 7377 7000
Website: http://www.mds.qmw.ac.uk/dental/

Patient Care Line
Tel: + 44 (0)207 377 7000 (ext 2102)

Dead_Eye_Jones
14-07-2006, 3:31 PM
hehe I lived with a dentist in the 1st year - I could tell you some stories...
...but I dont want to put Ratty off getting them teef fixed ;)! Best of luck

stevewilliams
14-07-2006, 5:27 PM
WOW. Didn't realise these places existed. I don't suppose anyone knows of one in the South Wales area??

pollocmc
14-07-2006, 5:45 PM
cardiff mate or bristol (is that close? my geography is rubbish)

pollocmc
14-07-2006, 5:53 PM
The full list from the BDA web site. There is a new school opening - Peninsula (Plymouth/Exeter Unis) can get address off web.

I'm not saying they'll do similar to glasgow though.

cheers.

Belfast
The Queen's University of Belfast, School of Dentistry, Grosvenor Road, Belfast, Northern Ireland BT12 6BP
Tel: 028 90 263122
Website: http://www.qub.ac.uk/cd/

Birmingham
Dental School, University of Birmingham, St. Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 6NN
Tel: 0121 237 2763
Website: http://www.dentistry.bham.ac.uk/

Bristol
Dental School, University of Bristol, Lower Maudlin Street, Bristol BS1 2LY
Tel: 0117 923 0050
Website: http://www.dentalschool.bris.ac.uk/

Cardiff
University of Wales College of Medicine, Dental School, Heath Park, Cardiff CF4 4XY
Tel: 029 20 747 747
Website: www.cardiff.ac.uk

Dundee
University of Dundee, Dental School, Park Place, Dundee DD1 4HN
Tel: 01382 635976/7
Website: www.dundee.ac.uk/dentalschool

Glasgow
University of Glasgow, Glasgow Dental School, 378 Sauchiehall Street, Glasgow G2 3JZ
Tel: 0141 211 9703
Website: http://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/dental/

Leeds
School of Dentistry, University of Leeds, Clarendon Way, Leeds LS2 9LU
Tel: 0113 343 6172
Website: www.leeds.ac.uk/dental

Liverpool
School of Dental Surgery, University of Liverpool, PO Box 147, Pembroke Place, Liverpool L3 5PS
Tel: 0151-706 5203
Website: www.liv.ac.uk

London
Guy's, King's & St Thomas's Dental Institute
Guy's Tower, King's College London, SE1 9RT, London SE1 9RT
Tel: 020-7188 7188
Website: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/dentistry/

London
Barts and the London
Queen Mary's School of Medicine and Dentistry, Turner Street, London E1 2AD
Tel: 020 7377 7000
Website: http://www.mds.qmw.ac.uk/dental/

Manchester
University of Manchester, School of Dentistry, Higher Cambridge Street, Manchester M15 6FH
Tel: 0161 306 0231
Website: www.den.man.ac.uk

Newcastle
University of Newcastle upon Tyne, The Dental School, Framlington Place, Newcastle upon Tyne NE2 4BW
Tel: 0191 222 8347
Website: www.newcastle.ac.uk/dental

Sheffield
School of Clinical Dentistry, University of Sheffield, Claremont Crescent, Sheffield S10 2TA
Tel: 0114 271 7801
Website: http://www.shef.ac.uk/dentalschool/

cattie
14-07-2006, 9:42 PM
Kings, Guy's & St Thomas' only take patients by referral & this generally needs to be done by a dentist :)

They will carry out emergency treatment for anyone on means tested benefits but otherwise they will not treat you.

Kings College Dental Hospital has an emergency dept. open till 10pm for anyone qualifying who needs emergency treatment. They will only do basic work to tide you over till you can get to a dental practice. If you don't have a dentist they can supply you with a list of dentists in the locality.

Toothsmith
14-07-2006, 9:54 PM
Most dental hospitals only see patients on referal from the patient's own dentist. It is also possible to be refered on from the hospitals own 'walk in' emergency clinic, but 'walk in' hardly begins to describe the process.
They are as cash strapped as the rest of education and the nHS put together, and the waits are enormous.

Best to just get recommended to a good local dentist and pay up.

pollocmc
14-07-2006, 11:11 PM
Hey all I said is what glasgow are offering and give addresses!!

It must be that our oral health is so good up here that they are short of patients ;)

What is the deal down south on the NHS for treatment plans? I dont want to put my foot in it and upset anyone. Is there not a cap set - Im sure thats how it works up here with treatment plans sent to a board and approved.

Its easy to say get a dentist and pay up but if you have to go private and are not well paid and cant afford it does that mean you are not entitled to the treatment that others can get. Not having a go at you Toothsmith, its the shambles the govenrment seem intent on making of NHS dental care which at this rate wont exist at all soon that is annoying me!

Toothsmith
15-07-2006, 9:10 AM
Its easy to say get a dentist and pay up but if you have to go private and are not well paid and cant afford it does that mean you are not entitled to the treatment that others can get. Not having a go at you Toothsmith, its the shambles the govenrment seem intent on making of NHS dental care which at this rate wont exist at all soon that is annoying me!

The OP said he had 'Strong but very badly discoloured teeth'

Therefore he is looking for cosmetic dentistry.

Cosmetic dentistry isn't covered by the NHS anyway.

There isn't enough tax revenue to pay for the essentials - You know, Wars, Computer systems that don't work, Big houses for Ministers. Never mind the little luxuries like education and healthcare. So I don't think cosmetic dentistry is ever going to get on the map. ;)

tawnyowls
17-07-2006, 4:31 PM
Given that you can get a posh cheap/free haircut from student hairdressers on training nights, does anyone know if it's possible to offer oneself (as a victim) up to student dentists for similar training? I've got a lot of very strong but very badly discoloured teeth (cheers, childhood antibiotics!), and I know I'd be looking at a couple of thousand pounds as a conservative estimate to get them fixed even with an NHS dentist.


What exactly are you planning to get done? It sounds at that price as if you're thinking about veneers. If it's the discolouration you have the problem with, have you considered bleaching (professional, done with a UV light)? That can make an amazing difference, only costs about £300-400, and should last for a long time, especially as you're usually given a top-up kit as well (supposed to last a year, but I'm not half-way through mine after 2 years). I was told by the dentist that the procedure wouldn't be able to whiten my fillings, but it did! I would definitely give that a go before trying anything with veneers, especially as the procedure to fit them is irreversible; your teeth have to be filed down so much that you're stuck with veneers for the rest of your life, and they only have a lifespan of about 10 years, so it's a very expensive option.

Toothsmith
17-07-2006, 6:39 PM
It may cost a bit more to bleach teeth if it's tetracycline staining (I think that's what the OP was refering to when he said about childhood antibiotics). This can be a real bu**er to shift. With time and perseverence it can work though. Find and be guided by a dentist experienced in such matters.

Nile
17-07-2006, 6:43 PM
Hello Ratty

I think this thread may be better suited on the 'Health' board, where it could help others with a similar question to ask.........so I'll move it across.

Hi, Martin’s asked me to post this in these circumstances: I’ve asked Board Guides to move threads if they’ll receive a better response elsewhere(please see this rule (http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=1009335#post1009335)) so this post/thread has been moved to another board, where it should get more replies. If you have any questions about this policy please email abuse@moneysavingexpert.com (abuse@moneysavingexpert.com).

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Nile