The Great 'Cheapest Decent Laptop' Hunt

[spike87]

You won't want to be playing games on a laptop anyway - unless you want to fry eggs on it ;)

Even my current Toshiba laptop plays games.

[Steve_xx]

Acer Aspire One A150L / Intel Atom N270 1.6GHz / 1GB / 120GB / 8.9" / Linux / NetBook / Blue (LU.S050A.074)

£159.99 Free Delivery

from Play.com, and don't forget the 0.5% cashback at Quidco. This is slightly better than then recent Dixons/Curry offers due to the fact that it's not a refurb and it has 1gb of RAM, whereas the Dixons/Currys offer though cheaper was a refurb with just 512mb of RAM.

Here's the link:

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/5826000/Acer-Aspire-One-A150L-Intel-Atom-N270-1-6GHz-1GB-120GB-8-9-quot-Linux-NetBook-Blue/Product.html

[ioscorpio]

Morrisons have a Compaq with 160 gig HD and 1 gig RAM for £249

[chili2001]

Acer Aspire One A150L / Intel Atom N270 1.6GHz / 1GB / 120GB / 8.9" / Linux / NetBook / Blue (LU.S050A.074)

£159.99 Free Delivery

from Play.com, and don't forget the 0.5% cashback at Quidco. This is slightly better than then recent Dixons/Curry offers due to the fact that it's not a refurb and it has 1gb of RAM, whereas the Dixons/Currys offer though cheaper was a refurb with just 512mb of RAM.

Here's the link:

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/5826000/Acer-Aspire-One-A150L-Intel-Atom-N270-1-6GHz-1GB-120GB-8-9-quot-Linux-NetBook-Blue/Product.html

I can beat that! http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=169883 for £149.99
Plus if you scout about you might find a £10 off expansys voucher around which they relese now and then.

[Steve_xx]

I can beat that! http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=169883 for £149.99
Plus if you scout about you might find a £10 off expansys voucher around which they relese now and then.
Once you've added the shipping in it comes out at: £156.61!

[chili2001]

Once you've added the shipping in it comes out at: £156.61!

Still cheaper than £159.99 though. Find a £10 off voucher too and your laughing at £146.61

[emmashine]

Guys - have you tried eBay for bargain laptops? I just bought my new Acer laptop for £120 brand new. There are hundreds for sale on the site and there are plenty of eBay shops selling specifically electronics.

[Optimist]

Guys - have you tried eBay for bargain laptops? I just bought my new Acer laptop for £120 brand new. There are hundreds for sale on the site and there are plenty of eBay shops selling specifically electronics.


Mmm three posts in total and all recommending using Ebay.

Are you on commission ?

[chili2001]

Mmm three posts in total and all recommending using Ebay.

Are you on commission ?
The way her posts are worded i'm sure she works for ebay promotions too! Naughty naughty girl!

[stamford]

The way her posts are worded i'm sure she works for ebay promotions too! Naughty naughty girl!


Maybe she can give us all the link for the new £120 Acers if there's any still left I'd like 2 or 3 :D

[arkonite_babe]

The other one I'm checking out is this one
PC World (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0716449406.124541792 6@@@@&BV_EngineID=cceeadehifmdhfecflgceggdhhmdgmk.0&category_oid=-35054&sku=071583&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null#productInformationSection)


I ended up buying the model that pc world has, but got it from Argos £20 cheaper. :money:

[montymonty]

am looking for a fast and reliable alternative to my macbook used for my business.
is this a potential solution?

I thought I would start this one of myself. !I have deliberately picked the old high street knee trembler PC World, as I know posting from such a shop (i know, don't spit) will goad all techies into finding a better deal within a millisecond to ensure it isn't the current running.



While 1 Gb is no longer super fast, it is more than adequate for most people looking for office functions and to surf the web. !

OK so that's my ultra quick starter for ten. !Come on MoneySavers smash it....

[jennieshrew]

Oh my, im so confused. I have read all of the last twenty pages and still dont know which laptop to buy. I need a laptop which I can use the internet, send emails, watch DVDs, store lots of photos, do lots of stuff on Excel and use accounting type software. I only really use it at home.

I found this horrible pink and black thing on ebuyer.com but I really have no idea if it would be any good or if I could buy something better for less. The options seem to be endless and the specs mean nothing to me.

From reading your posts 2GB of RAM seems to be the minimum one ought to go for if you want to be able to do anything remotely complicated on there. Apart from that i'm stuck.

Is this any good and can I buy a better one for less?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165374

I have a dell laptop which has packed in and I found that buying replacement batteries and leads was so prohibitively expensive that it has put me off Dell. Im sure I would ignore that hatred if they had the best laptop though.....

Please help!

[sukysue]

Jennie I do sympathize I found the same problem when I bought ours. Thing is you can go by all the advice in the world but there will always be differing opinions to listen to. I think you should probably go with the best spec for the amount of money you can spend stating the obvious I know. My nephew bought a dell from tesco and is thrilled with it, we have bought, in the past, a packard bell that was brilliant , a hp which is brilliant , a hp compaq which hubby thinks is fab and I hate and an advent which is actually very good on the sly!Lots of things differ to make the performance better I mean for instance the type of broadband you get , how fast it is, also we use google chrome on all our laptops now instead of ie and find it freezes far less than before.All minor things I know. Also we are beware of any ready installed anti virus programes on a very kind 90 day trial as they are utter s**t and you can't get them off your damn puter for love nor money these are all things that make your puter run slower than normal I am certainly no expert and I am prob wrong about a few details and I am sure I will be shot down in flames very soon ! Good luck in choosing fwiw!The only thing I will say is that we bought ours from Mr T and they were very good when something went wrong we had a replacement immediately.

[chili2001]

Oh my, im so confused. I have read all of the last twenty pages and still dont know which laptop to buy. I need a laptop which I can use the internet, send emails, watch DVDs, store lots of photos, do lots of stuff on Excel and use accounting type software. I only really use it at home.

I found this horrible pink and black thing on ebuyer.com but I really have no idea if it would be any good or if I could buy something better for less. The options seem to be endless and the specs mean nothing to me.

From reading your posts 2GB of RAM seems to be the minimum one ought to go for if you want to be able to do anything remotely complicated on there. Apart from that i'm stuck.

Is this any good and can I buy a better one for less?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165374

I have a dell laptop which has packed in and I found that buying replacement batteries and leads was so prohibitively expensive that it has put me off Dell. Im sure I would ignore that hatred if they had the best laptop though.....

Please help!

No that one is rubbish for the cash! I certainly wouldn't spend any less on a laptop, vista needs a good cpu and lots of ram to run propally or it will be annoyingly slow! I would spend a little more and go for:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845 or for an extra £60 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158885 which has a better cpu, webcam and massive 500 gig hard drive. Perfect for all your photo's! :-)

[chili2001]

Also we are beware of any ready installed anti virus programes on a very kind 90 day trial as they are utter s**t and you can't get them off your damn puter for love nor money these are all things that make your puter run slower than normal I am certainly no expert and I am prob wrong about a few details and I am sure I will be shot down in flames very soon !

You are spot on with that advice. I get fed up with all the pointless "free trial" software they stick on new pc's. Acer and Dell are the worst culprets. If I wanted bloody Macaffee anti virus I would go and buy it, but I wouldnt cos its rubbish and it can be a pain in the a**e to get shot of the free trial because it won't uninstall propally unless you have some proper removal software. Grrrrrr!

[chili2001]

The only thing I will say is that we bought ours from Mr T

Things haven't gone well since his A-team days then I guess? I pity the fool. http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon10.gif

[sukysue]

both of those look very nice indeed am tempted !!!Have to restrain myself !

[sukysue]

haha!
seriously though those puters look lush! well done for finding them!

[oh_no]

Just bought one of these from Morrisons for £249:

http://www.simplyhp.co.uk/Compaq_Presario_CQ60-305EA_631600.html

All the family were pitching in for my Mum in Laws 70th.It will be her first computer so doesn't need to be all singing and all dancing.If it proves to be reliable we'll all be well happy.

[jennieshrew]

:TThank you sukysue and chili - I love the look of both of those, now we just need to work out how to pay for it!! My credit card is looking at me with an evil eye!

Im glad I posted a message - I wasnt sure if I would get a reply but thank you so much for helping.

Does ebuyer do any discount codes or cashback? I have searched but cant find anything.

[coolTechno]

my choice would be grabbing a Bargain off Ebay from a reputed seller :)

[chili2001]

Just bought one of these from Morrisons for £249:

http://www.simplyhp.co.uk/Compaq_Presario_CQ60-305EA_631600.html

All the family were pitching in for my Mum in Laws 70th.It will be her first computer so doesn't need to be all singing and all dancing.If it proves to be reliable we'll all be well happy.

Not bad for the price although very basic. I would stick an extra gig of ram or 2 in it though otherwise vista will struggle. Get it from http://www.crucial.com/uk/index.aspx

[chili2001]

Does ebuyer do any discount codes or cashback? I have searched but cant find anything.

Sadly they dont but they are one of the best and cheapest suppliers around. I couldnt find them any cheaper. By all means shop around though.

[rpsheridan]

Im looking for the best processor available, 4GB memory and high quality screen. Grpahics and hard drive memory do not matter to much. My budget is £500 although £600 tops.

I dont know which processor to go for, so confusing as to which is the best when they are the same Ghz.

This is my cheaper back up at the minute http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158885

However I have also found this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158885 with a better processor, is it worth the difference, does anyone know of any better specs for the same price of £549 or under? I cant find any.

What do people think?

Cheers in advance

[rpsheridan]

sorry the 549 one is http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_6930G-744G32Mn_Laptop_LX.AGA0X.002/version.asp?refsource=ldawin

[chili2001]

Im looking for the best processor available, 4GB memory and high quality screen. Grpahics and hard drive memory do not matter to much. My budget is £500 although £600 tops.

I dont know which processor to go for, so confusing as to which is the best when they are the same Ghz.

This is my cheaper back up at the minute http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158885

However I have also found this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158885 with a better processor, is it worth the difference, does anyone know of any better specs for the same price of £549 or under? I cant find any.

What do people think?

Cheers in advance

This one is a very good model for the price and although the Acer from laptops direct has a better CPU it is not worth the extra £100+

[rpsheridan]

I have found this for £600

Dell Precision M4400 Laptop with the following specification:
2.8Ghz Core 2 Duo (T9600) Processor
4Gb Memory (1 x 4Gb)
250Gb Hard Drive
FX1700M 512Mb Graphics Card
Screen is 15.4 WXGA 1280 x 800
Wireless
Bluetooth
SD Card Slot
Integrated 0.3 Mega Pixel Camera
Fingerprint reader



Would this be worth paying the extra, I mean how big of a difference is there between, T9600 and the T6400 etc?

[chili2001]

I have found this for £600

Dell Precision M4400 Laptop with the following specification:
2.8Ghz Core 2 Duo (T9600) Processor
4Gb Memory (1 x 4Gb)
250Gb Hard Drive
FX1700M 512Mb Graphics Card
Screen is 15.4 WXGA 1280 x 800
Wireless
Bluetooth
SD Card Slot
Integrated 0.3 Mega Pixel Camera
Fingerprint reader




Would this be worth paying the extra, I mean how big of a difference is there between, T9600 and the T6400 etc?


I think thats the highest intel dual core possible cpu for laptops. The difference is 0.7Ghz between the T6400 and T9600.
Is it worth it? Well depends on what you need all that extra power for? Are you a gamer or use a lot of video or photo editing software? Then the extra graphics and cpu power would come in handy. The Acer with the T6400 is no slowpoke itself though! Personally I would save myself £200 and get the Acer. The other looks a very high spec but not worth the extra cash in my opinion. Oh... and its a Dell.http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon13.gif

[rpsheridan]

I just want something that will last me really, its going to be a toss up between the two as I cant find anything in between. I like to run a lot of applications at once so the more powerful the better. The only thing I dont really know what I am looking for is the screen, what sort of resolution for hd should i be looking for and will anything else affect this, eg qraphics card or motherboard? What is WXGA?

Surely Dell is better than acer isnt it? I kind of like the idea of finger print recognition too!!!

[chili2001]

What is WXGA? Surely Dell is better than acer isnt it? I kind of like the idea of finger print recognition too!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_XGA can explain it better than me!
The finger print thing is basically a novelty security thing and can be a little hit and miss, either works or annoyingly doesn't!
As for Dell vs Acer lets just say that out of every 10 call outs I get to fix a dodgy computer problem, 8 of them are made by Dell. Some people still swear by them though. I just swear at them! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon10.gif Still, you pays your money and takes your choice.

[rpsheridan]

ok brilliant, thanks very much, looks like it is the acer, unless I can find a better spec for under £550, however I have looked for ages and I am struggling. The spec seems outstanding for the price, wonder if I can get cashback/vouchers for ebuyer too somewhere.

[marcofoo]

I've seen a lot of criticism and some praise for several brands on here.

Is anyone in the know able to summarise the positives and negatives for each brand? In their opinion of course.

[rpsheridan]

do hp and sony laptops have the best reputation?

[JDPower]

Is anyone in the know able to summarise the positives and negatives for each brand? In their opinion of course.
You'll get a hundred different answers from a hundred different people in response to a question like that, there is no hard and fast pros and cons between brands.

[spike87]

do hp and sony laptops have the best reputation?

Of course, everyone has a different opinion. My opinion is that Sony have a very good reputation (I don't own one but want one). I'd say Acer and Dell have the worst reputation when it comes to laptops.

[JDPower]

Of course, everyone has a different opinion. My opinion is that Sony have a very good reputation (I don't own one but want one). I'd say Acer and Dell have the worst reputation when it comes to laptops.
I agree that Sony has a good reputation but in my experience that reputation slightly exceeds the reality. They aren't bad but they are quite some way from the pinnacle of quality that everyone thinks Sony are, and subsequently pay an unnecessary premium for.

Personally I've had no problem with Dell at all but everyones experience is different. For example Toshiba are second in the poll at the top of the page but my last laptop was a Tosh (and not a cheap one) and it was terrible - numerous hardware and build quality issues.

[flossy_splodge]

Of course, everyone has a different opinion. My opinion is that Sony have a very good reputation (I don't own one but want one). I'd say Acer and Dell have the worst reputation when it comes to laptops.
I too thought badly of Acer until I went into a large John Lewis where by far the majority of the laptops were Acer and I made comment.
The assistant, who seemed quite clued up, said that these days Acers were good, JL wouldn't sell them otherwise?
So does that mean new spec Acer's are in fact OK?:o

[chili2001]

I too thought badly of Acer until I went into a large John Lewis where by far the majority of the laptops were Acer and I made comment.
The assistant, who seemed quite clued up, said that these days Acers were good, JL wouldn't sell them otherwise?
So does that mean new spec Acer's are in fact OK?:o

I've never had a problem with Acer and always found them to be a reliable and cheap make. The desktops are usually a good buy too. My mums had an Acer digital camera for years and never had a problem! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon7.gif

[merdoom]

hello - i realise this is not a laptop as such but wonderd if i could get an opinon on this disgo net browser (http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/10823678/Disgo-Net-Browser-3000-64MB-2GB-7-Windows-CE-Netbook/Product.html) - is it worth the money (can't afford a laptop!)?
i just want something to be able to look at the internet on my lunch and check my email etc at work... or is there a better option anyone knows of?

cheers!

[chili2001]

hello - i realise this is not a laptop as such but wonderd if i could get an opinon on this disgo net browser (http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/10823678/Disgo-Net-Browser-3000-64MB-2GB-7-Windows-CE-Netbook/Product.html) - is it worth the money (can't afford a laptop!)?
i just want something to be able to look at the internet on my lunch and check my email etc at work... or is there a better option anyone knows of?

cheers!

I would say that this is a better option if thats all you need it for: http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/6108212/Asus-Eee-PC-901-XP-Atom-N270-1-6GHz-1GB-12GB-8-9-XP-Home-NetBook-White/Product.html

*Edit* Found it a lot cheaper from here: http://www.wholeinstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=415 never delt with them though

[merdoom]

I would say that this is a better option if thats all you need it for: http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/6108212/Asus-Eee-PC-901-XP-Atom-N270-1-6GHz-1GB-12GB-8-9-XP-Home-NetBook-White/Product.html

*Edit* Found it a lot cheaper from here: http://www.wholeinstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=415 never delt with them though

thanks chili!
i did look at that first one, think i was put off because it was a refurb - but suppose it doesn't matter!
that second site looks way to cheap on loads of stuff - anyone know if its legit??
Edit- just done a google search on them and it doesn't look good, perhaps best to avoid them!!

[sharkbait]

Is this a good deal?

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/7747080/Sony-VAIO-NS10-L-S-Pentium-Dual-Core-T3200-2-0-GHz-3GB-250GB-DVD-SM-15-4-Vista-Home-Premium-Laptop-Notebook/ProductReviews.html

Or am I better with?
http://direct.tesco.com/q/buylist/id.5943.aspx

Thanks.

[chili2001]

But you end up spending £480 for the "free" laptop that sells for under £300? Its not even a laptop its a netbook, and not a very good one either! You can buy a more powerful acer aspire one for £150 from ebuyer.

[sharkbait]

Can anyone tell me the difference between intel celeron T1600 & AMD sempron processors please?

Which would be the better one to opt for?

[chili2001]

Can anyone tell me the difference between intel celeron T1600 & AMD sempron processors please?

Which would be the better one to opt for?
They are both a bit crap as low powered cpu's go. I would go for a higher spec intel core 2 duo. AMD run hot and slow in my opinion. What is it you are looking for?

[sharkbait]

I am only looking for a laptop for about £350 which will basically be used for internet browsing, emails and some office work. Maybe kids pc games for my 5 year old.

[sharkbait]

Intel© Pentium© Dual-Core - Is this any better?

[chili2001]

I am only looking for a laptop for about £350 which will basically be used for internet browsing, emails and some office work. Maybe kids pc games for my 5 year old.

The best one I can find for that sort of price is: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845 at £379.98

Obviously you can get cheaper models with poorer powered cpu's, less ram, etc but in my opinion it would be a false saving as Windows Vista needs a decent cpu and lots of RAM to run propally. The above, although by all means a budget laptop still is still a very good spec and pretty futureproof (not that I use that team lightly as far as computer technology goes!). :D

[mayi80]

Whats the best price you experts can find for something like this:

Processer dual core, ideally core 2 duo.
Ram at least 2gig, 3 gig is better, 4 gig better still.
DVD-RW
Decent graphics card that (so it will play most non-cutting edge games, such as world of warcraft, call of duty 4, doom 3, etc on reasonable settings)
Hard drive at least 160gig
Either Svideo or HDMI video output.
Not bothered what operating software it comes with, i can install my own.

I was wondering if it can be done for £450 ish?

Thanks!

[chili2001]

Whats the best price you experts can find for something like this:

Processer dual core, ideally core 2 duo.
Ram at least 2gig, 3 gig is better, 4 gig better still.
DVD-RW
Decent graphics card that (so it will play most non-cutting edge games, such as world of warcraft, call of duty 4, doom 3, etc on reasonable settings)
Hard drive at least 160gig
Either Svideo or HDMI video output.
Not bothered what operating software it comes with, i can install my own.

I was wondering if it can be done for £450 ish?

Thanks!

Although you could get a decent laptop for that price, your not going to find one with a decent graphics card in without spending another £100+.
There are some good cheap desktops around though if thats what you were thinking of? This one http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167289 at £350 is cracking value and leaves you £100 for a top graphics card. Needs a screen still.

[mayi80]

Although you could get a decent laptop for that price, your not going to find one with a decent graphics card in without spending another £100+.
There are some good cheap desktops around though if thats what you were thinking of? This one *notallowedlinknewuser* at £350 is cracking value and leaves you £100 for a top graphics card. Needs a screen still.

Thanks, im a bit out of date with graphics cards so i didnt know they added that much. I still need a laptop for browsing and the like, so i think i'll maybe just get a more basic model. Although i'd be interested to see any laptop bargains for about £450 with a less expensive, but still a bit above bog standard, graphics card. (I can put up with only the likes of Quake3Live/Unreal as long as its smooth!)

[chili2001]

Thanks, im a bit out of date with graphics cards so i didnt know they added that much. I still need a laptop for browsing and the like, so i think i'll maybe just get a more basic model. Although i'd be interested to see any laptop bargains for about £450 with a less expensive, but still a bit above bog standard, graphics card. (I can put up with only the likes of Quake3Live/Unreal as long as its smooth!)

This is a good deal: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158885

[quinns2003]

just seen this on the goggle box @ the curry's sale... not the best spec but only £299 http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/product/206076

[chili2001]

just seen this on the goggle box @ the curry's sale... not the best spec but only £299 http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/product/206076

Only £40 more and a lot better spec: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844

[rpsheridan]

Dell Precision M4400 Laptop with the following specification:
2.8Ghz Core 2 Duo (T9600) Processor
4Gb Memory (1 x 4Gb)
250Gb Hard Drive
FX1700M 512Mb Graphics Card
Screen is 15.4 WXGA 1280 x 800
Wireless
Bluetooth
SD Card Slot
Integrated 0.3 Mega Pixel Camera
Fingerprint reader

[chili2001]

Dell Precision M4400 Laptop with the following specification:

2.8Ghz Core 2 Duo (T9600) Processor
4Gb Memory (1 x 4Gb)
250Gb Hard Drive
FX1700M 512Mb Graphics Card
Screen is 15.4 WXGA 1280 x 800
Wireless
Bluetooth
SD Card Slot
Integrated 0.3 Mega Pixel Camera

Fingerprint reader


Hey, thats not a bad price for a laptop with a monster cpu like that! Hope you don't have any problems with it being a Dell!! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon12.gif

[ItchieFeet]

What about the PC World deal - Acer 5735Z-423G for £349 - any good?

I'm looking for a decent laptop so I can get online at home. Small flat so no room for PC. Mostly for internet use, photos and watching the odd DVD.

Key Features:-

Intel Pentium Dual Core processor T4200
3GB memory
160GB hard drive
Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic
15.6" widescreen display
Intel GMA HD4500 graphics card
Wireless enabled
Up to 3 hours battery life

[emweaver]

whats wrong with dell? ive had 2 dell laptops but maybe ive been lucky? they do offer excelltn after sale service with their warranty nothing like what ive heard about tech guys!

[samclam]

Here's a good netbook deal

9" Eee PC with long battery life and 80GB hard drive, £136

www .laptopsdirect. co.uk/GRADE_A2_-_ASUS_EEE_Pc_904HD_Netbook_A2-eeepc904hd-tmuk-bk01/version.asp?refsource=ldfroogle

remove spaces from URL

[JDPower]

Here's a good netbook deal

9" Eee PC with long battery life and 80GB hard drive, £136
Just be aware that, as well as most of their stock, is cheap due to minor (supposedly cosmetic) damage.

[ds1980]

Have about £600 to spend on a laptop to work from home.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

[moneysavinglaura]

What do people think about the nc20? Is it the best laptop i can get for £350?
Thanks for your help :)

[JDPower]

What do people think about the nc20? Is it the best laptop i can get for £350?
Thanks for your help :)
That is a netbook (ie a shrunk down lower powered laptop designed mainly for internet browsing and portability). If you are looking specifically for a laptop then that is not the right choice. But then you didn't say what you wish to use it for.

[moneysavinglaura]

That is a netbook (ie a shrunk down lower powered laptop designed mainly for internet browsing and portability). If you are looking specifically for a laptop then that is not the right choice. But then you didn't say what you wish to use it for.

I just presumed that it was a laptop! TBH, I don't even know the difference - my knowledge of computer hardware is not so great, sadly.

i am looking for a laptop (or notebook?!) that can:

boot up relatively fast, and works relatively fast on the internet and to load up programs -not looking for the speed of lightening just that it doesnt take 5 mins to boot up like my stupid Vista-addled computer does.
That can work without Vista - I hate it!!

Will be using it for my PGCE starting in September

That can play films - is everything in HD now?

A relatively good sized screen

-what else would one do with a laptop? - mind gone blank!

[xoxlauraxox]

Can anyone offer me advice on which laptop to get, I currently use an Acer Aspire 2920 with 160 HD, 2GB Memory..

I'm looking into getting a new one & would prefer to stay clear of Acer as I'm not keen on the build quality.

I only really use it for browsing the internet but quite often have lots of tabs open so need something thats going to be able to cope with that without slowing down too much..

I don't really wanna go over £350 but could possibly go upto £450 if its a good deal.

Thanks
Laura

[jase_uk]

My son has saved up £270 and is looking to buy himself a laptop, he wants to use it for school work, surfing the internet and he also plays online games ie runescape etc, obviously for that kind of money it won't be all singing all dancing but im sure there is something out there. A 15" screen would probably be the smallest we would like to go. I was wondering if anyone out there has seen any decent deals around.

Many thanks in advance

[davidmt83]

Copied off another post I've just made (complete thread (http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=23115037&posted=1#post23115037)):

*****Option 1*****
If they're not bothering about gaming how about this:

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dells...N0054505&s=dhs (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=NRS15451&l=en&m_30=136643&oc=N0054505&rbc=N0054505&s=dhs)
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T6500 (2.1GHz, 800MHz, 2MB)
3GB RAM
250GB HDD
£398.99

*****Option 2*****
A slightly cheaper version of the above (the only noticable differences are this one has a 15.4inch compared to the above 15.6 screen but is £10 cheaper):
http://configure.euro.dell.com/dells...N0715217&s=bsd (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=N4X15202&l=en&m_30=143259&oc=N0715217&rbc=N0715217&s=bsd)
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T6570 (2.1GHz, 800MHz FSB,2MB L2 cache)
3GB RAM
250GB HDD
£389.00

*****Option 3*****
http://configure.euro.dell.com/dells...N0053503&s=dhs (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=NRS15354&l=en&m_30=111789&oc=N0053503&rbc=N0053503&s=dhs)
If they are bothered about gaming then here's the above with a proper graphics card and more RAM:
Intel® Pentium® Processor T4200 (2.0GHz, 800MHz, 1MB cache) (Marginally worse than the above, shouldn't be noticeable)
4GB RAM (Better than the above)
320GB HDD (Better than the above)
512MB ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4570 (Better than the above)
£499.00

*****Option 4*****
http://configure.euro.dell.com/dells...N0715207&s=bsd (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=N4X15203&l=en&m_30=143259&oc=N0715207&rbc=N0715207&s=bsd)
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor P8600 (2.4GHz, 1066MHz FSB,3MB L2 cache) (Better than all of the above)
4GB RAM (Better than the first two, same as the third)
320GB HDD (Better than the first two, same as the third)
256 MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 9300M GS Graphic Card (Better than the first two, worse than the third)
£499.00

If you can afford it I'd go for Option 4 if they're not a gamer or option 3 if they are.

[chili2001]

not looking for the speed of lightening just that it doesnt take 5 mins to boot up like my stupid Vista-addled computer does.
That can work without Vista - I hate it!!

You will probally find that it is the running programs in the startup menu that are slowing your computer down or lack of RAM or decent CPU rather than Vista. I have always got on well with Vista but can see it would be slow on a pc that isn't really built to cope with it. What system score do you get overall and individually for mainly CPU and RAM. It makes me sad to see people unnecessarily replacing their computers or blaming the OS for something that could be fixed cheaply and easily with a RAM upgrade and a tweek of the unnecessary start up programs.

[moneysavinglaura]

You will probally find that it is the running programs in the startup menu that are slowing your computer down or lack of RAM or decent CPU rather than Vista. I have always got on well with Vista but can see it would be slow on a pc that isn't really built to cope with it. What system score do you get overall and individually for mainly CPU and RAM. It makes me sad to see people unnecessarily replacing their computers or blaming the OS for something that could be fixed cheaply and easily with a RAM upgrade and a tweek of the unnecessary start up programs.

Hi Chili,
I've gone through the start up programs, and all unnecessary ones are gone, so it stresses me out rather. Not buying a new computer to replace this anyway, just getting a laptop to use for uni.

I've found these two - budget is about £350. What do people think?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-Laptop-Athlon/dp/B0027FFU1U/ref=pd_ts_zgc_ce_14014431_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&pf_rd_p=468178133&pf_rd_s=right-5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=405287011&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=1XACV7651J508F43CPQ1

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845

[chili2001]

I just presumed that it was a laptop! TBH, I don't even know the difference - my knowledge of computer hardware is not so great, sadly.

i am looking for a laptop (or notebook?!) that can:

boot up relatively fast, and works relatively fast on the internet and to load up programs -not looking for the speed of lightening just that it doesnt take 5 mins to boot up like my stupid Vista-addled computer does.
That can work without Vista - I hate it!!

Will be using it for my PGCE starting in September

That can play films - is everything in HD now?

A relatively good sized screen

-what else would one do with a laptop? - mind gone blank!

Hi Chili,
I've gone through the start up programs, and all unnecessary ones are gone, so it stresses me out rather. Not buying a new computer to replace this anyway, just getting a laptop to use for uni.

I've found these two - budget is about £350. What do people think?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-15-6-inch-Laptop-Athlon/dp/B0027FFU1U/ref=pd_ts_zgc_ce_14014431_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&pf_rd_p=468178133&pf_rd_s=right-5&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=405287011&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=1XACV7651J508F43CPQ1

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845

Sounds like a lack of RAM to me then, but if you need a new one for uni then I would go for the latter from ebuyer! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon7.gif

[rpsheridan]

I have a dell inspiron m4400 with:

dual core t9600 2.8ghz processor
4gb ram
512mb graphics card

I have a few issues with this first when i put a dvd in i have no software to play them, what could i download for free? I had vlc player but the pic appeared a little grainy but i dont know why. I thought this was a high end pc so dont know why the pic is not of a high standard

Also how can i delete pc processes to make my pc perform at an optimum?

Cheers for your help.

[chili2001]

I have a dell inspiron m4400 with:

dual core t9600 2.8ghz processor
4gb ram
512mb graphics card

I have a few issues with this first when i put a dvd in i have no software to play them, what could i download for free? I had vlc player but the pic appeared a little grainy but i dont know why. I thought this was a high end pc so dont know why the pic is not of a high standard

Also how can i delete pc processes to make my pc perform at an optimum?

Cheers for your help.

Download the latest drivers for your graphics card may help and make sure all display settings are on their highest. Use windows defender to stop any unnesscery programs from starting. As for the dvd's try vlc player again. You might also have a faulty screen or graphics card... I did warn you about the Dell!! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon12.gif

[JDPower]

I had vlc player but the pic appeared a little grainy but i dont know why. I thought this was a high end pc so dont know why the pic is not of a high standardThe DVD pic on a PC is never quite up to the standard of a decent TV (apart from anything you generally don't watch a TV from one or two feet away). If it's only very slightly grainy it's probably normal, normally if the laptop is struggling it will be stuttery rather than just grainy but by all means try updating graphics drivers and/or other players. Personally I use KMPlayer for all vid and audio playback but I don't think the player will make a huge difference (try anyway).
I did warn you about the Dell!! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon12.gifI don't see what help, or relevance in this matter, that is.

[chili2001]

I don't see what help, or relevance in this matter, that is.

It was a tongue in cheek joke. And as it wasn't directed at you so I couldn't give a toss if you didn't think it was helpful or relevant. Get a sense of humour! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon10.gif

[dbs]

Thinking of buying this http://www.johnlewis.com/230652600/Product.aspx £300

1gig of ram,160 hard drive,Vista basic, 1.6ghz so should not get drain the battery like a 2.0ghz would.

I only want to bank online,email,word, excel, bit of browsing,shopping online etc.

Reasons to buy 2 year warranty,toshiba good build,lack of speed on proccessor to save battery life.

Is Vista basic ok to use for what I want to do?

Do the laptops come with the Vista disc or pre-installed as I may want to put XP on it.

[chili2001]

Thinking of buying this http://www.johnlewis.com/230652600/Product.aspx £300

1gig of ram,160 hard drive,Vista basic, 1.6ghz so should not get drain the battery like a 2.0ghz would.

I only want to bank online,email,word, excel, bit of browsing,shopping online etc.

Reasons to buy 2 year warranty,toshiba good build,lack of speed on proccessor to save battery life.

Is Vista basic ok to use for what I want to do?

Do the laptops come with the Vista disc or pre-installed as I may want to put XP on it.

This is a better spec for £339.99 with free cloud wi fi and laptop bag or £357.99 with a two year warranty +extras: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844 has better CPU but not a lot between the two but if you go for the john lewis one I would stick an extra gig of RAM in it. It has a very slow processor which might be a pain. Can't comment on Vista Basic because I use premium but I imagine it is less resource hungry. The CPU wouldn't have much if any impact on the battery life as the newer ones like these have all sorts of power saving functions so when the pc is idle so are they. If you want to save the battery turn down the screen brightness to minumum and turn off the wi fi or blutooth when your not using it. Hope this helps? http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon7.gif

[chili2001]

Does the laptops come with the Vista disc or pre-installed as I may want to put XP on it.

This varies from supplier to supplier, vista would be preinstalled but you usually have the option of making a full backup or "rescue disc" to reinstall it if there is not a spare OS disc supplied.

[JimmyMackem]

Hello, looked through a few pages but couldn't really work it out.

Basically I'm looking for a laptop to go to uni with, only game I really play is footy man which to work well really needs 2GB+ ram to run smoothly. I've got a decent budget but don't want to pay for what I don't need. Any help?? Use some photoshop and things too.

[flea72]

Know diddly squat about computing, but am looking for a laptop suitable for a teenager to use. Not into gaming, basically needs to be able to connect to internet, and type up schoolwork

have found two possibles, but not sure on which to go with

Toshiba £245 - 15.4" display, intel processor, 2gb ram, 160gb HDD, supermulti dvd drive, bluetooth, webcam, vista premium, mcafee

or

Elonex £195 - 15.4" wxga xbrite tft screen (?), intel celeron 1.7ghz 1mb processor, 120gb sata harddrive, 1gb ram, dvdrw drive, vista basic, wireless, 4in1 reader, kaspersky

or any other suggestions, in similar price range

Flea

[dbs]

Have you got a link to these deals?

[phil11]

Try Micromart magazine - usually have good deals. autdirect currently have websurfer laptops from £150.

[flea72]

Try Micromart magazine - usually have good deals. autdirect currently have websurfer laptops from £150.

tried autdirect, am i doing something wrong as they only seem to be selling 5 different laptops, and the one for £150 only has a 7" screen, which is way too small for doing schoolwork on

or was your reply to someone else?

Flea

[hawkis]

If it's of any use to anyone, Ebuyer are still doing this HP 550 laptop for £379.99:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845

Excellent spec for the money. I'm looking for a laptop for £400 or less so if anyone has any better suggestions, please post them!

Spec for the above:

Processor

Intel® Core2 Duo Processor T5670
1.80 GHz
2 MB L2 cache
800 MHz FSB

Hard Drives

250 GB
Hard disk drive speed 5400 rpm
DVD+/RW SuperMulti DL LightScribe

Memory

2 x 2GB DDR2
2 SODIMM slots supporting dual channel memory
Memory Upgradeable to 4GB Maximum
Chipset Mobile, Intel® GME965

Operating system

Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 32-bit

Dimensions

Weight 2.5 kg
Product dimensions (W x D x H) 3.2 (at front) x 35.8 x 26.7 cm
15.4 inches diagonal TFT Display

Networking

Intel 802.11a/b/g mini-pci card, Bluetooth
WLAN
56K modem
Intel Fast Ethernet Integrated Controller (10/100 NIC)

Expansion slots

1 ExpressCard/54 slot
Secure Digital (SD) slot

External ports

3 x USB 2.0 ports
1 x VGA
1 x Stereo microphone in,
1 x Stereo headphone/line out
1 x Power connector
1 x RJ-11
1 x RJ-45

Software

HP Recovery Manager
Roxio Creator Basic 9

Graphics

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Graphic subsystem Up to 384 MB shared system memory
Video resolutions 1280 x 800 WXGA BrightView

Audio

High Definition Audio
Mono speaker
Stereo headphone/line out
Stereo microphone in

Keyboard

Full-sized keyboard
Pointing device Touchpad with scroll zone

Power

6-cell (47 WHr) Lithium-Ion battery - Battery life Up to 4h30m
External 65W AC adapter, HP Fast Charge Technology

Warranty

1 Year Standard Warranty

[nzamcdza]

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3481.aspx

What do people think, seems like a good deal but as it is a lot better spec than the other ones in that price range i feel like im missing something???!!

[Jaffa.]

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3481.aspx

What do people think, seems like a good deal but as it is a lot better spec than the other ones in that price range i feel like im missing something???!!

It's not bad, just make sure you use your Clubcard :p

[Ifts]

Hi, need some advice from any techies in the know. I am thinking about buying a netbook for internet use only and saw this one for sale in Asda:

http://direct.asda.com/Acer-Aspire-One-White-10.1in-Netbook-with-Windows-Operating-System/000586003,default,pd.html

Is this good value for the spec?

Thanks.

[ross007]

I have been a happy Dell user and was looking at this laptop http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756

I think it is a decent spec for the money, but I can decide whether to pay for the 4 year warranty. I guess it will give my 4 years of peace of mind, and by thenit will be time for a upgrade anyway. Just wanted to get peoples thoughts.

[helwarren]

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-3481.aspx

What do people think, seems like a good deal but as it is a lot better spec than the other ones in that price range i feel like im missing something???!!

i've just gone for this one http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.205-3315.aspx - i'm not techie but the spec was bit higher and vista premium instead of basic and with 1000 bonus points you make back the extra you will be paying for it. Was delivered next day and has been simple to get going.

[chili2001]

I have been a happy Dell user and was looking at this laptop http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756

I think it is a decent spec for the money, but I can decide whether to pay for the 4 year warranty. I guess it will give my 4 years of peace of mind, and by thenit will be time for a upgrade anyway. Just wanted to get peoples thoughts.

A happy Dell user eh? I've not met many of those!! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon12.gif
I couldn't really make out the link you added, it just went to a build your own dell laptop thing but if you were talking about one of the standard builds with no added extras and an extended 4 year warranty for just under £500? I think this is a very bad spec for the price. You would be paying most of the money for the warranty alone and Dell can be notoriously difficult in honoring it should something go wrong. This is a better spec and £100 cheaper: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149938
Use a little of it to add accidental damage and loss cover to you home insurance. Much cheaper, and dont forget you will still be covered by the Statutory 12 month warranty should anything else go wrong with it. http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon14.gif

[Garetha]

A happy Dell user eh? I've not met many of those!!
I've used Dell for many years now - that's several of my own and about 30 purchased for other users.
They sell good value machines at the basic spec price.
I usually try and wait for discounts and/or free delivery.

I've had a couple of problems over the years - and in each case the warranty procedures were better than expected - including a next day engineer when I'd only got collect and return warranty.

The independent surveys of reliability usually put Dell high upon their lists.
My only gripes relate to the technical support - expensive phone calls to call centres outside the UK - but that's common to many other makes.

[mikeouk]

I have been a happy Dell user and was looking at this laptop http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756

I think it is a decent spec for the money, but I can decide whether to pay for the 4 year warranty. I guess it will give my 4 years of peace of mind, and by thenit will be time for a upgrade anyway. Just wanted to get peoples thoughts.

not sure how you came up with this spec. when i tried it gave me a free 4gb memory upgrade and colour cover but its works out more expensive, so i just ordered one off the outlet site.they have free delivery on inspirons at the moment, i picked up the following spec for just under £350

Inspiron 1545 Pentium Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz,800MHz,1MB) Windows Vista® Home Premium;Windows Vista® Home Premium 1 £ 302.32 Inspiron 1545 Pentium Dual Core T4200 (2.0GHz,800MHz,1MB)
Optical Drive 8X DVD + - RW Drive including software
Camera Integrated 1.3 Mega Pixel Camera
4GB (2x2GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 800MHz
Dell Wireless 1397 (802.11 b g)
Windows Vista® Home Premium
LCD Back Cover Cherry Red Custom High Gloss Finish
Battery Inspiron Primary 6-cell 56WHr Li-Ion
Keyboard Internal UK/Irish Qwerty Keyboard
Windows Vista® Home Premium
320GB HD 5400
MS Vista Premium Logo Label NB (small)
Display 15.6in Widescreen WXGA with TrueLife CCFL
Certified Refurbished
Tracking SKU
£ 0.00
1
£ 0.00
Base Warranty-1 yr Collect and Return
£ 0.00
1
£ 0.00
Total excl. VAT VAT Rate VAT Total incl. VAT Sub-total(s): £ 302.32 15.00% £ 45.35 £ 347.67 Total Price: £ 302.32 £ 45.35 £ 347.67 http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/mhtml:{7EF364FB-F407-46A2-90C6-B203DD421B88}mid://00000063/!x-usc:http://img.dell.com/images/global/gms/ose/vertical_shadow_box_b_l.gifhttp://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/mhtml:{7EF364FB-F407-46A2-90C6-B203DD421B88}mid://00000063/!x-usc:http://img.dell.com/images/global/gms/ose/vertical_shadow_box_b_r.gif

[chili2001]

I've used Dell for many years now - that's several of my own and about 30 purchased for other users.
They sell good value machines at the basic spec price.
I usually try and wait for discounts and/or free delivery.

I've had a couple of problems over the years - and in each case the warranty procedures were better than expected - including a next day engineer when I'd only got collect and return warranty.

The independent surveys of reliability usually put Dell high upon their lists.
My only gripes relate to the technical support - expensive phone calls to call centres outside the UK - but that's common to many other makes.

Hey thats good to hear. I've nothing personal against them, but you can find a much better spec pc for cheaper these days. If your happy with them then to stick to it. The last time I phoned them on behalf of a customer to buy a laptop they were very agressive and rude because I refused to buy the rip off extended guarentee. Maybe they have improved over the years. I'm just fed up having to repair them all the time, then again... it keeps me in business! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon10.gif

[ross007]

Sorry should have said it is this spec, which is £378 or £497 with the warranty.

Components Intel® Pentium® Processor T4200 (2.0GHz, 800MHz, 1MB cache) (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 1))
Genuine Windows Vista® SP1 Home Premium (64 BIT) - English (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 11))
Black Colour with Matte Finish (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 380))
Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word) (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 1002))
1 Year Limited Warranty - Collect & Return (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 30))
15.6" Widescreen WXGA CCFL (1366 x 768) TFT Display with TrueLife™ (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 760))
3072MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [1x2048 + 1x1024] (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 3))
250GB (5,400rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 8))
Intel Integrated GMA 4500MHD (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 6))
DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 16))
4-cell 24WHr Li-Ion primary battery (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 112))
Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g) (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 19))
No Bluetooth Upgrade (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 59))
1.3 Mega pixel Integrated Web Camera (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(1, 379))
Accessories No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(2, 1014))
Services & Software No Accidental Damage Support (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(3, 463))
DataSafe Online Backup 2GB 1 year (http://javascript<b></b>:to_page_mod(3, 467))
Also Includes
N0754504
Inspiron 1545 Order - UK
English - Documentation Inspiron 1545
Inspiron 1545 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
65W AC Adaptor
No Carry Case
1 Meter Power Cord - UK
Internal UK English Qwerty Keyboard
1Yr Limited Warranty - Collect & Return
Wireless Label - Pentium Dual Core
Silver palmrest
Datasafe Local 2.0 Basic

[ItchieFeet]

For what its worth, I just bought a Compaq CQ60-320SA from Currys.

Looking for my first laptop, need usual windows programs, fast speed processor cos I'm impatient and a decent size hard-drive for my photos, (I'm very snap-happy!). Guy in the store was really patient and helped me understand all the various pieces that make up the spec - best of all the laptop retails I visited by far:



AMD Turion Dual-Core processor RM72
(2.10GHz, 1MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showEditorial%28%27Genuine-Windows%27%29;)
4GB memory
250GB hard drive
NVidia GeForce 8200M graphics
15.6" HD widescreen display
Webcam
Wireless enabled

Get free Windows 7 upgrade when its launched in October, I just pay the P&P.

£429.99 for laptop + £108.00 for Windows programs, Norton security and installation. £29.99 for back-up disc. I also took the £7.99 per month Whatever Happens coverage - which for £60 a year is only a tad more than my home insurance excess - and covers all accidental damage, e.g. spilling coffee on it! Good for peace of mind...

Oh and got a free mouse thrown in too!

Was really leaning towards a Dell until got to Currys....small thing really but liked that the Compaq has a proper number pad on the keyboard (unlike the Dell) which is great for all the spreadsheets I have to keep track of my expenditure and SOA...

IMPORTANT NOTE: This might be obvious to you Techs out there, but it wasnt until the 6th shop of the day that someone spelt out that NO LAPTOPS COME WITH SOFTWARE - you have to purchase Word, Excel, etc separately which could add another £60-100 onto the total price.

[hardy1976]

For what its worth, I just bought a Compaq CQ60-320SA from Currys.

Looking for my first laptop, need usual windows programs, fast speed processor cos I'm impatient and a decent size hard-drive for my photos, (I'm very snap-happy!). Guy in the store was really patient and helped me understand all the various pieces that make up the spec - best of all the laptop retails I visited by far:



AMD Turion Dual-Core processor RM72
(2.10GHz, 1MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:showEditorial%28%27Genuine-Windows%27%29;)
4GB memory
250GB hard drive
NVidia GeForce 8200M graphics
15.6" HD widescreen display
Webcam
Wireless enabled
Get free Windows 7 upgrade when its launched in October, I just pay the P&P.

£429.99 for laptop + £108.00 for Windows programs, Norton security and installation. £29.99 for back-up disc. I also took the £7.99 per month Whatever Happens coverage - which for £60 a year is only a tad more than my home insurance excess - and covers all accidental damage, e.g. spilling coffee on it! Good for peace of mind...

Oh and got a free mouse thrown in too!

Was really leaning towards a Dell until got to Currys....small thing really but liked that the Compaq has a proper number pad on the keyboard (unlike the Dell) which is great for all the spreadsheets I have to keep track of my expenditure and SOA...

IMPORTANT NOTE: This might be obvious to you Techs out there, but it wasnt until the 6th shop of the day that someone spelt out that NO LAPTOPS COME WITH SOFTWARE - you have to purchase Word, Excel, etc separately which could add another £60-100 onto the total price.


if you are happy with what you paid thats great :) However you knew that was coming personally I think thats a bit expensive..

[hardy1976]

if you are happy with what you paid thats great :) However you knew that was coming personally I think thats a bit expensive..

Take that back... good deal.

[chili2001]

I also took the £7.99 per month Whatever Happens coverage - which for £60 a year is only a tad more than my home insurance excess - and covers all accidental damage, e.g. spilling coffee on it! Good for peace of mind...

£7.99 per month. Um... I think you will find that makes £95.88 a year!
My home insurance covers all accidental damage for a tiny amount a year, I think your being ripped off a little? http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon9.gif

[terriex]

Hi everyone.
I recently heard about a deal with T-mobile where you get a free laptop & internet access on a 2 year contract for £30/month. Do you know if the laptop's any good & if it's the best deal out? I'm with Virgin broadband for about £17.50 a month at the moment so seems to be worth doing.
Thank you.

[ItchieFeet]

£7.99 per month. Um... I think you will find that makes £95.88 a year!
My home insurance covers all accidental damage for a tiny amount a year, I think your being ripped off a little? http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon9.gif


Ah yes indeed - I realised the error of the calculation, but only just figured out you can edit posts!!

I'll go back and double check my home insurance now too....!

[ItchieFeet]

Hi everyone.
I recently heard about a deal with T-mobile where you get a free laptop & internet access on a 2 year contract for £30/month. Do you know if the laptop's any good & if it's the best deal out? I'm with Virgin broadband for about £17.50 a month at the moment so seems to be worth doing.
Thank you.

In my searches, mobile broadband dongles seem to be the cheapest way to go for internet access, but not necessarily the fastest speeds or most reliable connection...

In all of the deals I saw that claim you get a "free laptop" you actually end up spending more over the term of the contract, than if you purchase the laptop up front and just pay for the mobile broadband as/when required.

Obviously, if you havent got the cash up front, then this allows you to spread the cost, but overall you do spend more.

[dbs]

If it's of any use to anyone, Ebuyer are still doing this HP 550 laptop for £379.99:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845

Excellent spec for the money. I'm looking for a laptop for £400 or less so if anyone has any better suggestions, please post them!

Spec for the above:


Processor

Intel® Core2 Duo Processor T5670
1.80 GHz
2 MB L2 cache
800 MHz

In the reviews one person has found a intel centrino sticker on the laptop is this anything to worry about as it states its a core2 duo processor on the website?

[chili2001]

[/LIST] In the reviews one person has found a intel centrino sticker on the laptop is this anything to worry about as it states its a core2 duo processor on the website?

Don't worry about that. The intel centrino is just a laptop version of their cpu's. Its still a core 2 duo. If in doubt just go to control panel/system to check what cpu is installled.
I found a slightly better spec for £399.00: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149938
not a lot in it but slightly better cpu, bigger screen, and full size keyboard.

[Sportbilly]

I just ordered this from Dell's small business outlet. Seems pretty good value at £516 with the rebates, free delivery, a 10% off online voucher and a few percent cashback-

Base
Vostro 1520 : Standard Base
Memory
4096MB 800 MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM (2x2GB)
Keyboard
Internal Keyboard - English (QWERTY)
Video Card
256 MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 9300M GS Graphic Card
Hard Drive
320GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with Free Fall Sensor
Microsoft Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista® Business SP1 - English
Optical Devices
Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Tray Load Drive including Software
Wireless Networking
Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g) European
Cables
1 Meter Power Cord (3 Wire) - UK
Shipping Documents
English Shipping Documents
Gedis Bundle Reference
N0715207
Standard Warranty
1 Year Collect and Return
Enhanced Service Packs
1Yr Collect & Return Warranty - No Upgrade Selected
Order Information
Vostro Laptop 1520 Order - UK
Primary Battery
48 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Carrying Cases
No Carrycase
Processor
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor P8600 (2.4GHz, 1066MHz FSB,3MB L2 cache)
Dell System Media Kit
V1520 Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
Camera
Integrated 1.3MP Camera
Colour Choice
Obsidian Black
Labels
Wireless Label - Core 2 Duo (Dell Wireless Cards)
LCD
Premium WXGA+ (1440x900) Wide Screen with TrueLife™
Microsoft Application Software
Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English
CompleteCare
Declined CompleteCare
Protect your new PC
Norton Internet Security™ 2009 - 15 Month Protection - English
Power Supply
90W AC Adaptor - 3 wire
Biometric Identification
No Biometric Fingerprint Reader


Will be getting a free upgrade to Win 7 Professional as well when it gets released and also getting rid of bloody Norton as soon as it arrives.

[hardy1976]

Looks like a good deal...

£159.99 from £250 Acer Aspire One A110 - AGB / 3G / Intel Atom N270 1.6GHz / 1GB / 16GB SSD / 8.9" / Linux / NetBook / Blue (LU.S070A.064)
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/805638...e/Product.html (http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/8056387/Acer-Aspire-One-A110-AGB-3G-Intel-Atom-N270-1-6GHz-1GB-16GB-SSD-8-9-Linux-NetBook-Blue/Product.html)

[Steve_xx]

Looks like a good deal...

£159.99 from £250 Acer Aspire One A110 - AGB / 3G / Intel Atom N270 1.6GHz / 1GB / 16GB SSD / 8.9" / Linux / NetBook / Blue (LU.S070A.064)
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/805638...e/Product.html (http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/8056387/Acer-Aspire-One-A110-AGB-3G-Intel-Atom-N270-1-6GHz-1GB-16GB-SSD-8-9-Linux-NetBook-Blue/Product.html)

or yu can get it from here:

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/LU.S430A.054_LU.S430A.054/version.asp?refsource=ldfroogle

for £139.97 plus get another 2% off by going via Cashbackkings.

[crockpot]

or yu can get it from here:

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/LU.S430A.054_LU.S430A.054/version.asp?refsource=ldfroogle

for £139.97 plus get another 2% off by going via Cashbackkings.

Do you this this would be any good for a young teenager?

My son wants a netbook for his birthday. In white not pink!

Thanks

[mikeouk]

Will be getting a free upgrade to Win 7 Professional as well when it gets released and also getting rid of bloody Norton as soon as it arrives.

dont think you'll get the windows 7 upgrade if it came from dell outlet. I rang dell last week about this and they said outlet computers arnt eligible. Got my inspiron today and double checked by submitting the service tag, and its not eligible. I bought mine from the home outlet site so there could be a different policy with the business site of course.

[Sportbilly]

Yeah, looks like there's a different policy as it's definitely eligible and said as such during the config.

The business machines look better value than the home ones- a better processor, a 7200 rpm drive and a dedicated graphics card for about the same price as an Inspiron. Presumably it's ugly as sin though...

[techmax76]

I have just bought a Sony laptop. I've searched online to find the most elegant and cheap laptop and I found one its so affordable.

[nessa1422]

Hi,
Am looking for a laptop for my daughter who wants it mainly for playing Sims, so am guessing it needs a fair memory? Not very technical sorry.
Moneywise, as cheap as poss obviously!!!
Second hand is fine.
Thanks,
Nessa

[sharica]

Hi.. My first post in this thread .. Only usually go on coupon thread.

My son is starting UNI in september and needs a laptop.

He has 400 to spend .. (Cashback would be good too)

Not sure what he should go for as i have only ever had PC'S.

Should he go for a free laptop with a phone contract or anyone got ideas for a Under £400 good laptop

Ta Muchly Shaz...xxx .. In meantime i will have a look through the thread.

:beer::beer:

[selfyselfy]

Hi,

I am searching for a sub £300 laptop for my mother and am in need of some reccomendations if anyone has any?

It will literally just be used for searching the net and needs office for occasional Spreadsheet and word processor use and I would like it to have a cd/dvd drive.

As it needs office and a optical drive im pressuming a netbook is out of the question?

I have found several pc's online for sub £300 but many are celeron which many are saying will run slowly with Vista?

Can anyone recoommend any suitable products?

Cheaper the better really!

[chili2001]

Hi,

I am searching for a sub £300 laptop for my mother and am in need of some reccomendations if anyone has any?

It will literally just be used for searching the net and needs office for occasional Spreadsheet and word processor use and I would like it to have a cd/dvd drive.

As it needs office and a optical drive im pressuming a netbook is out of the question?

I have found several pc's online for sub £300 but many are celeron which many are saying will run slowly with Vista?

Can anyone recoommend any suitable products?

Cheaper the better really!

I would go for an samsung NC10 that have come down to £270 at Dixons, and if you really need an optical drive then go for this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167565 £31.99
If you are going to to put office on I would say to go for an older less power resorce one or put another 1gb of ram in the netbook.

[selfyselfy]

Thanks for that.

Ive been thinking and think it would be best to get an optical drive built in in case she wants to put any software on.

I guess ill keep my eye out for a budget laptop.

[chili2001]

Thanks for that.

Ive been thinking and think it would be best to get an optical drive built in in case she wants to put any software on.

I guess ill keep my eye out for a budget laptop.

Up to you but I wouldn't get anything below this spec to run vista:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844 not a bad price for £330 http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon14.gif

[selfyselfy]

Ok if that spec will be better to run Vista then we might pay a little more.

Can you advise whether the Hp model above is better worse than this Dell I am also looking at?

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054503&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756

Thanks

[chili2001]

Ok if that spec will be better to run Vista then we might pay a little more.

Can you advise whether the Hp model above is better worse than this Dell I am also looking at?

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054503&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756

Thanks

Do you mean the bog standard inspiron 15 for £349.00?
If so, the HP is miles better still, and cheaper!

[lolamancity]

Hi

Apols for the laziness of this post, i currently have a 10 month old crazy child who i can't take my eyes off, so i've just jumped on here while he has a nap....

Basically, i'm pretty good with software knowledge, but rubbish with hardware knowledge, so need a bit of help.

I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 at the moment, but due to separation from my husband, i need to buy a new one for myself. I haggled to get this one and ended up (over a period of a few weeks of them continuously phoning me back, and me sticking to my guns) getting a pretty good deal... trouble is, i can't remember what i asked for or anything! I've had a Toshiba in the past and that had no end of troubles so don't think i'd touch that brand again.

I don't really have any money at all for a budget, but i'm considering a 0% credit card for the first time in my life and asking for money from relatives for my birthday in a few months to get it paid off, so ideally i don't wanna pay over £350.

I only really use my laptop for internet activities. I use the web a lot, i aquire and watch films on it, and most importantly, i transfer and store thousands and thousands of pictures and home video (baby related obssession!).

Basically my requirements are:

decent amount of memory
decent battery life (i have a 9 cell now)
integrated Bluetooth
XP (not Vista)

and a built in webcam (for Skype) would be handy but not essential.

Budget is £350 ish, but would prefer much less if poss


There's a great one on the Dell site at the moment (Inspiron 15) on special offer with 3GB Memory & 250GB Hard Drive for £349, but when i add the extras i want on it ends up at £430 which i can't justify :(

Can anyone help?

Thanks :)

[Steve_xx]

Laskys have the following:

Asus 701SD netbook with a 7 inch display screen and 8 GB hard drive

512 MB memory (RAM)
8 GB storage (hard drive)
Wireless networking
1 media card slots
£159.99 and FREE delivery. Plus 2.5% cashback available from Cashbackkings.

Here's a link: http://www.laskys.com/computing/laptops_and_pdas/netbooks/asus_701sd_8gb_b.html?cm_mmc=Affwin-_-Feed-_-Netbooks-_-520160&refid=affil&referred_site=aw&_$ja=tsid:6094|prd:60612

[greggypetty]

Compaq has been the best laptop brand for me. They are cheap and work quite well.

[timmay2606]

Hi.. My first post in this thread .. Only usually go on coupon thread.

My son is starting UNI in september and needs a laptop.

He has 400 to spend .. (Cashback would be good too)

Not sure what he should go for as i have only ever had PC'S.

Should he go for a free laptop with a phone contract or anyone got ideas for a Under £400 good laptop

Ta Muchly Shaz...xxx .. In meantime i will have a look through the thread.

:beer::beer:
The sub £300 laptops usually have a very small screen - not much good if it's going to be his primary comuter at uni. I would strongly recommend the HP 550 - it's around your £400 mark, the specs are good and the service from HP is excellent. Try using a cashback site to get some money off as well.

DO NOT go for the free laptop & mobile broadband. If your son is in halls he will have broadband access (99% of halls of residence do these days) and if he's sharing a house they would be well advised to get a braodband package they can all contribute towards. The mobile broadband contracts will tie him in for a period of time that means he would end up paying more than he would if he just bought the laptop, and he is not guaranteed reception.

When you choose a laptop think how he would use it - if he's going to be writing assignments and doing research then a mini laptop with small keyboard and tiny screen won't suffice. If it really is just for uni work and not gmes etc then he won;t need fantastic specifications, just enough to run his Office package etc.

And finally, in terms of software, Microsoft do MS Office 2007 Student edition for around £45, or OpenOffice is free, or a dodgy copy of MS Office is also free (just don't get caught!).

Hope that helps

Timmay2606
(IT Consultant & realist for 10+ years)

[sharica]

The sub £300 laptops usually have a very small screen - not much good if it's going to be his primary comuter at uni. I would strongly recommend the HP 550 - it's around your £400 mark, the specs are good and the service from HP is excellent. Try using a cashback site to get some money off as well.

DO NOT go for the free laptop & mobile broadband. If your son is in halls he will have broadband access (99% of halls of residence do these days) and if he's sharing a house they would be well advised to get a braodband package they can all contribute towards. The mobile broadband contracts will tie him in for a period of time that means he would end up paying more than he would if he just bought the laptop, and he is not guaranteed reception.

When you choose a laptop think how he would use it - if he's going to be writing assignments and doing research then a mini laptop with small keyboard and tiny screen won't suffice. If it really is just for uni work and not gmes etc then he won;t need fantastic specifications, just enough to run his Office package etc.

And finally, in terms of software, Microsoft do MS Office 2007 Student edition for around £45, or OpenOffice is free, or a dodgy copy of MS Office is also free (just don't get caught!).

Hope that helps

Timmay2606
(IT Consultant & realist for 10+ years)

Thanks for the help.. It will just be for uni stuff plus web surfing etc.. If he gets the living arrangement he applied for it has wireless included in the price..

He is taking his TV to play his ps3 and wii on :)

Thanks Sharon...xxx

[confuzzled?]

hello!
could someone help me out with which of theese is best? i have to buy from amazon as i got vouchers for my birthday and have up to £190 to spend.
i really only need something to get on the net while out and about and maybe store some photos but i just can't really work out the differences!
one is new the other two are used/display models - any advice? is it worth buying a used one when i can spend the extra few quid and get the new one?
i know they have different sized hard drives, but thats about it, thanks!

Acer Aspire One A110L 3G Netbook, Linpus Linux Lite Version, 8.9-inch Crystalbrite TFT LCD, 1GB RAM, 16GB SSD, 3G, Intel Atom Processor N270 (Brown) -£189.00 (new)

ASUS Eee PC 904HD BK003X Netbook, Windows XP Preloaded, 1GB RAM, 80GB HD (Black) 182.00 (used, display model)

Acer Aspire One A150-Ab Netbook, Linpus Linux Lite version, 1GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB HD (Sapphire Blue) (used 30 day return)

[nicholataylor]

refurbished laptops are always good, they have old price tags with new parts.

[nicholataylor]

also, never buy a fujitsu. They always overheat, i left mine on my bed for 10 minutes and it over heated. It might have been a little silly but i think it is still not good enough. If you can get a 2nd hand lenovo or a cheap one go for it!! Last ages!

[JDPower]

also, never buy a fujitsu. They always overheat, i left mine on my bed for 10 minutes and it over heated.
That is all dependent on the individual laptop really, one model may suffer overheating and every other may be fine, so wouldn't write off a manufacturer based on one laptop. I had a Tosh that suffered terrible overheating yet they are second from top in the poll at the top of the page.

[confuzzled?]

is there any major difference between the ASUS Eee PC 904HD BK003X and the Acer Aspire One A150?

am thinking about going for the asus as it has a 2 year warrenty (as a used display item) and the acer only has 90 days (as a refurbished) any thoughts on this?

[superstar]

Ok, need some help. I have been planning to get a new laptop to replace my old one. I am not that expert with computers, so help is appreciated!

My budget is around 300-400, the less the better, of course. Its for basic net surfing, and office works. Some photos and some songs. Not much for gamings etc.

Any suggested laptops? I have been looking at Toshiba or the HP 550 as recommended here. Also, what is the minimum processor level that should I get? Been thinking about around 120GB, is that a good amount? Anything else that I should pay in attention when getting one? How about the RAM?

Help is much appreciated! ;)

[flossy_splodge]

Ok, need some help. I have been planning to get a new laptop to replace my old one. I am not that expert with computers, so help is appreciated!

My budget is around 300-400, the less the better, of course. Its for basic net surfing, and office works. Some photos and some songs. Not much for gamings etc.

Any suggested laptops? I have been looking at Toshiba or the HP 550 as recommended here. Also, what is the minimum processor level that should I get? Been thinking about around 120GB, is that a good amount? Anything else that I should pay in attention when getting one? How about the RAM?

Help is much appreciated! ;)
Look at Sainsburys current in store offers. They have a good spec Toshiba and also a Compaq both under £400.
Sorry can't remember the exact spec of either.
If you can't get to a store, post back and I'll take a note when in my local Sainsburys tomorrow.
Here is the link to their online store:
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/list.html?sort=default&hnav=4294966698
The two I saw are featured end of third row down and beginning of 4th row.
Hope this helps.:p

[superstar]

Look at Sainsburys current in store offers. They have a good spec Toshiba and also a Compaq both under £400.
Sorry can't remember the exact spec of either.
If you can't get to a store, post back and I'll take a note when in my local Sainsburys tomorrow.
Here is the link to their online store:
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/list.html?sort=default&hnav=4294966698
The two I saw are featured end of third row down and beginning of 4th row.
Hope this helps.:p

No nearly Sainsbury for me. If you do go there, do take note for me. Have been looking at the HP 550 too.

[flossy_splodge]

Ah well, you might want to take a look at ebuyer website. They've got a load of HP 550's with different specs and it appears you get a years free WiFi through Cloud if you buy an HP 550 through them.:p
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845

[flossy_splodge]

No nearly Sainsbury for me. If you do go there, do take note for me. Have been looking at the HP 550 too.
here's the spec for the Compaq CQ60-313SA 15.6in 2.1GHz Laptop

This medium-sized laptop from Compaq offers an amazing set of features for the price. Great for users who want a more computer on a smaller budget. This model boasts a 15.6-inch screen and a fast, dual core processor, in addition to a range of other features.

The 15.6-inch widescreen (1366x768) is brilliant for seeing everything you need to, and is also great for watching movies. The 2.1GHz AMD Athlon" X2 Dual-Core Processor for Notebook PCs is fast enough to run most programs quickly, while the 3GB of memory will let you run many more powerful programs, or watch downloaded content more smoothly.

The 160GB hard drive is big enough for lots of programs, music files and videos. The optical drive reads and writes DVDs and CDs, and is also a LightScribe drive, which lets you print directly onto LightScribe DVDs or CDs with silkscreen quality. Just burn the disc, eject it, flip it upside down, put it back, and LightScribe does the rest. Messy labels are a thing of the past.

An integrated SD/MMC/xD and Sony Memory Stick reader takes care of a range of different media reading, while three USB 2.0 ports take care of the rest. A VGA port, LAN connector, telephone plug and headphone and microphone jacks are also built in. It even has HDMI out, so you can play HD content onto an HDTV.

The unit has a built-in modem, so even if you're not in Wi-Fi range, or close to a LAN cable, you can connect by simply plugging into a phone cable.

Altec Lansing® speakers give great stereo sound, while a built-in microphone and webcam let you chat or video conference wherever you are. All this in a notebook weighing less than 3kg, and for such good value, is an amazing deal.

Comes with Windows Vista Home Basic installed.
Product features

Height


35.1cmWidth


25.2cmDepth


37.8cmWeight


2.96kgBrand


CompaqProduct name/number


NG457EA#ABUManufacturer's guarantee


1 yearQuick start guide


NoCountry of origin


ChinaAccessories included


NoneBattery life


6-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) batteryhoursBluetooth


NoBuilt-in TV tuner


NoCache
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1MBCard reader compatible with


5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure, Digital cards, MultiMedia cards, Memory Stick, Memory, Stick Pro, or xD Picture cardsColour


Black & ChromeFireWire port


NoGraphics card details


Up to 1407 MB Total Available Graphics MemoryGraphics memory dedicated


NoGraphics memory shared


YesHard drive
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160GBHard drive type


160 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 5400 rpm, up to 9 GB partition for system recoveryIncludes keyboard


YesIncludes monitor


YesIncludes mouse


YesIncludes spare battery


NoIncludes speakers


YesIncludes webcam


YesIntegrated microphone


YesIntegrated speakers


YesIntegrated webcam


YesKeyboard type


Built inMaximum screen resolution


Resolution: 1366 x 768Memory


4GBMemory card slot
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/support_files/style_images/common/icons/icon-question-mark-small-wh.gif (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/113760698_compaq_cq60313sa_156in_21ghz_laptop.html ?hnav=4294966698#) Takes the card from your camera or camcorder and enables you see the content on screen

YesModem included


YesMonitor wall mountable


NoMouse type


Built inNetworking capability


YesNumber of front USB ports


3 USB 2.0,Number of rear USB ports


3One-touch back-up


NoOperating system
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/support_files/style_images/common/icons/icon-question-mark-small-wh.gif (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/113760698_compaq_cq60313sa_156in_21ghz_laptop.html ?hnav=4294966698#) This is what you'll see as you operate the machine. Microsoft Windows, Linux or Apple Mac OSX are examples.

Windows VistaOptical drive


YesOptical drive BluRay compatible


NoOptical drive LightScribe compatible


YesPrint server included


NoProcessor
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/support_files/style_images/common/icons/icon-question-mark-small-wh.gif (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/113760698_compaq_cq60313sa_156in_21ghz_laptop.html ?hnav=4294966698#) This is the heart of the machine - generally dual processors make for faster machines, but they tend to cost more.

amd athlon x2dual core processor for notebook pcs ql-64 2.10 ghzProcessor bus
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/support_files/style_images/common/icons/icon-question-mark-small-wh.gif (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/113760698_compaq_cq60313sa_156in_21ghz_laptop.html ?hnav=4294966698#) The higher the figure, the faster the machine.

2.10 GHz,MHzProcessor model number


AMD AthlonÖ X2 Dual-Core Processor for Notebook, PCs QL-64Processor speed
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/support_files/style_images/common/icons/icon-question-mark-small-wh.gif (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/113760698_compaq_cq60313sa_156in_21ghz_laptop.html ?hnav=4294966698#) The higher this number the faster the machine will perform.

2.10GHzRemote control


NoScreen contrast ratio


15.6" Diagonal High Definition HP Brightview DisplayScreen size
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/support_files/style_images/common/icons/icon-question-mark-small-wh.gif (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/113760698_compaq_cq60313sa_156in_21ghz_laptop.html ?hnav=4294966698#) Diagonal measurement of the screen in inches.

15.6"Software pre-loaded


microsoft , internet explorer, windows mail, adobe readerSound card


YesStylus


NoTechnical support


Tel 0844 3690369Touch screen


NoWiFi


NoWidescreen
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No

[flossy_splodge]

Toshiba Satellite L300-1FS 15.4 Inch 160GB Laptop Black
Toshiba's Satellite L300-1FS is a great mid-point between price and performance. The laptop still delivers a range of features normally only found on higher end models, and offers respectable computing power. With a large, high resolution 15.4in widescreen (1280x800), this portable laptop has Toshiba's TruBrite technology for enhanced viewing.

The pacy Intel Dual Core, 2.16GHz chip keeps computing quick, while the 2GB of memory is enough for most computing tasks such as web browsing, document and spreadsheet creation, and playing multimedia. The 160GB hard drive gives you enough space for all your programs, and leaves plenty of extra space extra for media if you want to watch movies during your commute.

The laptop also features a full range of extras, such as WiFi and LAN to connect to networks or the internet, a VGA port for an external monitor, microphone and headphone jacks. Great for travel it also has an internal modem so you can connect to the internet through a phone line - ideal for access to email in regions with no broadband or WiFi. Also has a useful number of USB ports (three).

Integrated speakers let you watch movies, or listen to music on the go, while the integrated webcam and microphone let you chat online or video conference without needing a headset.

Another bonus is the DVD-RW drive, that also works on DVD double-layer discs, so you can back up huge amounts of data (about 8GB) to one disc.

Comes with Windows Vista Home Basic installed, and a one year guarantee applies.

Product features

Height


13cmWidth


30cmDepth


40cmWeight


3.86kgBrand


ToshibaProduct name/number


PSLB8E-06M007ENManufacturer's guarantee


1 YearQuick start guide


YesCountry of origin


ChinaAccessories included


NoneBattery life


2 Hours 10 MinutesBluetooth


NoBuilt-in TV tuner


NoCache
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1 MBCard reader compatible with


2 Memory Slots, 1 Express Card SlotColour


Mist GreyFireWire port


NoGraphics card details


Mobile Intel GMA 4500MGraphics memory dedicated


NoGraphics memory shared


YesHard drive
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160GBHard drive type


5400 rpm S.M.A.R.TIncludes keyboard


YesIncludes monitor


YesIncludes mouse


YesIncludes spare battery


NoIncludes speakers


YesIncludes webcam


YesIntegrated microphone


YesIntegrated speakers


YesIntegrated webcam


YesKeyboard type


Built inMaximum screen resolution


1280*800Memory


2GBMemory card slot
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YesModem included


YesMonitor wall mountable


NoMouse type


Built inNetworking capability


YesNumber of front USB ports


3 x USB 2.0Operating system
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Windows VistaOptical drive


YesOptical drive BluRay compatible


NoProcessor
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Intel Pentium Processor T3400Processor bus
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667MHzProcessor model number


T3400Processor speed
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2.16 GHzScreen contrast ratio


Tru Brite WSVGA TFT DisplayScreen response rate
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85HzScreen size
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15.4"Sound card


YesTechnical support


www.toshiba.co.ukTouch screen


NoWiFi


YesWidescreen
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/support_files/style_images/common/icons/icon-question-mark-small-wh.gif (http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing_and_gaming/laptops/113767072_toshiba_satellite_l3001fs_154_inch_160gb _laptop_black.html?hnav=4294966698#) Useful for watching movies in their intended format.

Yes

[sixtyplus]

Today bought a Toshiba from Morrisons for £299.00. 2GB memory, but they only had 6 in stock and it was first come, first served. Looks very good and have been pootling about with it, but haven't got Wifi yet so can't access the world wide web - need a router. Only problem so far is that it won't let me type the '@' symbol, no matter what I try. Anyone got any ideas please?

[JDPower]

Only problem so far is that it won't let me type the '@' symbol, no matter what I try. Anyone got any ideas please?
Sounds strange. Does the key press down (nothing stuck under it)? Does the key itself actually work, ie does just pressing it give the main key symbol, usually the apostrophe, but pressing shift and the key not give the @ symbol?
You could try reinstalling keyboard drivers, but failing all that you may (and I stress may) just have been unlucky and got a faulty keyboard.

[Steve_xx]

Tesco - Acer A110 N270 1GB 16GB 8.9" White XP 3G Netbook - £209

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.205-3319.aspx

Might be possible to use a discount code to reduce it further?

[boobbby]

the '@' symbol, no matter what I try. Anyone got any ideas please?[/QUOTE]

pressing shift and 2 ... if that works you are using a US keyboard.. change to UK

can’t get the “@” key to work when typing out an email address.Providing that particular key is not physically broken or stuck then the most common reason for not getting an @ symbol when you hit that key and possibly getting a ” instead is because of your keyboard input or language settings.
In Vista, go to Start – Control Panel – Regional and Language Options and choose Keyboards and Languages then Change Keyboards. In Installed Services, click Add and choose the input language and keyboard layout for your location. Save your keyboard settings as a default.

Just make sure you are using a the english lanquage with your keyboard!!

[handful]

Only problem so far is that it won't let me type the '@' symbol, no matter what I try. Anyone got any ideas please?

It may be set up as an american keyboard. Try pressing SHIFT 2 as this is where the @ symbol is on their layout. If it is you can go into your keyboard settings and set it up for UK.

[Gravesendgirl]

I am looking to replace my laptop and have about £300-£400 to spend. I have read through a bit of this thread and HP550's seem to come out as a good buy.

I just use my laptop at home for internet and some excel/word stuff. We have a networked hard drive at home for all our pics and music so don't need to store that much stuff on it. I was wondering if someone could give me some advice on what spec would be best for me. Is it always best to buy the biggest spec you can afford?

Thanks

[Nosmo King]

I have seen a Toshiba L300 D202 on the Argos clearance e-bay site http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/15-4IN-TOSHIBA-SATELLITE-L300D-202-LAPTOP-ATHLON-64-X2_W0QQitemZ260412018719QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Comp uting_Laptops_EH?hash=item3ca1c4101f&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
this would work out at £245 which doesn't seem a bad price?

[JDPower]

Ignore klad1, he's a spammer.

[flossy_splodge]

This has got to be one of the best buys out there at the mo:
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2827_10747.htm
What a cracking spec.:j
In shops this Sunday 9th August.

[skintmostofthetime]

Anyone else have an opinion on this please?

[db-]

Biggest bargain i've seen in a looong time is that Medion from Aldi.
Them specs for that price is unheard of, especially with 3 year warranty.
They're good at keeping their word too. My nan has a telly from them and if anything goes wrong they're out the next day!

[spike87]

Medion looks good but it's just the name putting me off. Also thinking about Dell, I think they do some really good deals but it's just the name that I'm not sure of. Don't know whether to go for their XPS M1530. Like the spec but not the fact that it's a Dell! :D

[fuzzball172]

Medion are not a bad brand and their customer service has been winning awards for the last few years. Out of all the laptops I have seen in the last 3 years of being a self employed techie, I've only seen one faulty Medion, and that was because of a cup of coffee was spilt on the keyboard. Not much I could do, but Medion repaired it for £48 outside of its first year warranty...

[KingL]

Extra Value Laptop, Intel Dual Core T3000 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 250GB SATA HDD, DVDRW, 15.4" WebCam, NO Operating System

£300

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167514/show_product_reviews

Buy your own OS separately

[hardy1976]

That Aldi deal looks awsome... only fault i can find (potentially) with it is the "High Gloss Design"

[flossy_splodge]

That Aldi deal looks awsome... only fault i can find (potentially) with it is the "High Gloss Design"
Glad some others think it's a good package.
A 'thanks' would be good;)

[Spectralis]

This compares with the Aldi laptop. Slightly faster processor, virtually the same spec. Not sure about the graphics though.

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.205-6467.aspx

[Spectralis]

For £80 more than the 16" Aldi this 17.3" laptop is available with similar specs:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167261

[Spectralis]

This one is a 17" with blueray and faster processor but only 3GB RAM for £530.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5070365/Trail/searchtext>LAPTOPS.htm

[Spectralis]

Oops! Don't think the last one is dual core processor though.

[Spectralis]

Is there a chart to compare processors? All these different processor codes make it difficult to figure out which one is faster, dual core etc.

[superstar]

I use this site to compare processors, :
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

HTH

[needing help]

Please can someone help - Am looking at the dell outlet site for a new laptop and if I understand correctly I can use the System Identifier number to check its back ground - but when I look of the system configuration page/ service tag thingy it needs a 7 digit number - and I have a 8 digit number - please can anyone help.....!!! - even if its to tell me I'm doing it wrong lol!!!

[johnmc]

Have you tried entering only the first 7 digits? Or the last 7 digits?

[nui]

Ebuyer have an own brand laptop which has really good ratings, So far at the time of writing there are 18 5* star ratings which is the highest rating possible. Link and spec below. I hope it helps someone out.

I have found Ebuyer consistently the cheapest place to buy things and their own brand stuff very competent.

Go to Ebuyer and search for product 167514. I would link to it but as a new user I am not allowed to.

Extra Value Laptop, Intel Dual Core T3000 1.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 250GB SATA HDD, DVDRW, 15.4" WebCam, NO Operating System

[needing help]

Have tried using the first 7 - and the last 7.....
Still no luck!

[johnmc]

What about this one (http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1201314399.125011190 4@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadehmklgfehcflgceggdhhmdgmj.0&category_oid=-27411&sku=054080&page=Product&fm=1&sm=0&tm=4). Slightly over the limit @ £409.99


AMD Turion Dual Core Processor RM 75<LI class=indentFeature>(2.2GHz, 1MB Cache)
3GB Memory
250 Gb Hard Drive
Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
Screen Size/Type 17.3" LED Brightview
Graphics Card Type ATi Radeon 4530
Graphics Memory 512MB

[Tongue]

Aren't there any laptops with a "matt screen".
All these clear bright garbage and true view junk are like mirrors, awful.

Also with Windows 7 around the corner I'd hang fire on buying any laptop at present.

[chili2001]

Also with Windows 7 around the corner I'd hang fire on buying any laptop at present.

A lot of the deals around give a free upgrade to windows 7 at the moment.

[JDPower]

Please can someone help - Am looking at the dell outlet site for a new laptop and if I understand correctly I can use the System Identifier number to check its back ground - but when I look of the system configuration page/ service tag thingy it needs a 7 digit number - and I have a 8 digit number - please can anyone help.....!!! - even if its to tell me I'm doing it wrong lol!!!
I can only assume the system identifier is not the same as the service tag as the service tag should be seven digits, I have a dell and its seven digits, only other identifying number on mine is the express service code which is 11 digits. Although I'm not aware the service tag can be used in that way (to check a systems history), though I'm not familiar with the outlet site so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[hodders]

Is this a good deal for the price? It has £150 with an upgrade to Windows 7

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164328

[racer256]

Hi can someone point me in the direction to a guide which explains what all the jargon means when you buy a laptop?

[chili2001]

Hi can someone point me in the direction to a guide which explains what all the jargon means when you buy a laptop?

You can never go wrong with the dummies guides! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon7.gif

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Laptops-Dummies-Dan-Gookin/dp/0764575554

[TaBunny]

Ah well, you might want to take a look at ebuyer website. They've got a load of HP 550's with different specs and it appears you get a years free WiFi through Cloud if you buy an HP 550 through them.:p
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164845

I have been looking at these on ebuyer as want to get my daughter her first laptop for xmas, but I don't know if they have a built in wifi capability ready to go without signing up for this free cloud thing. I don't want or need the cloud thing as she will have use of our internet through router at home and same at school. Can I use these laptops for wifi with home router without the cloud or will they only work with cloud?

[TaBunny]

I am interested in buying THIS refurbished laptop for £199. (https://www.medionshop.co.uk/)
But as it's a refurb it only comes with a 90 day waranty, as this would be an xmas gift I am worried what if it doesn't work when they unwrap it or goes wrong within a few months. Anyone know if it would be worth thaking the risk.

[wayne1]

Some great deals in here

[TaBunny]

I am interested in buying THIS refurbished laptop for £199. (https://www.medionshop.co.uk/)
But as it's a refurb it only comes with a 90 day waranty, as this would be an xmas gift I am worried what if it doesn't work when they unwrap it or goes wrong within a few months. Anyone know if it would be worth thaking the risk.

Anyone had a chance to check out the refurbs on here and let me know if they think they would be a good deal even with only a 90 day warranty

[flossy_splodge]

I have been looking at these on ebuyer as want to get my daughter her first laptop for xmas, but I don't know if they have a built in wifi capability ready to go without signing up for this free cloud thing. I don't want or need the cloud thing as she will have use of our internet through router at home and same at school. Can I use these laptops for wifi with home router without the cloud or will they only work with cloud?
The free wifi through cloud is a facility you do not have to use. So the answer to your question is YES they do have a built in WIFi capability and just ignore 'cloud' if you don't want to use it. It is mainly of use if out and about and wanting free WiFi.:p

[WilliC]

Also with Windows 7 around the corner I'd hang fire on buying any laptop at present.


If you have a legit Windows Vista Premium/business/ultimate on your computer M$ are going to give you a free upgrade to windows 7 when it is released.
I would post the link, but as a new user i can't :(

[weemissy]

Looking for some advice please. Have read thru' some of the thread and getting more confused. Went to curry's and PC world today to look at laptops with my mum. We are both pretty clueless but the assistants seemed to be quite good. Mum is looking to surf the net, emails, and other basic stuff. There was a packard bell which was reduced to 299 and the software package brought it up to just under 400, it seems to be everything she would need. Is this a reasonable deal?
PS what is vista? - heard it mentioned on here
thanks

[chili2001]

Looking for some advice please. Have read thru' some of the thread and getting more confused. Went to curry's and PC world today to look at laptops with my mum. We are both pretty clueless but the assistants seemed to be quite good. Mum is looking to surf the net, emails, and other basic stuff. There was a packard bell which was reduced to 299 and the software package brought it up to just under 400, it seems to be everything she would need. Is this a reasonable deal?
PS what is vista? - heard it mentioned on here
thanks

Hi, you didn't mention the model or spec of the laptop currys recommended but if its this one: http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0617046529.125086429 7@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccladeidgdejedcflgceggdhhmdgmj.0&page=Product&fm=2&sm=0&tm=0&sku=291082&category_oid=-34014

Its a piece of crap for the price. I would stay away from currys and pc world, they tend to only reccomend things that make them the most commission and pc world tend to get aggressive if you refuse the "optional" software (that you won't need) or extended guarentee.
I would buy from one of the better pc online retailers.

This is a good buy for a laptop : http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844

But if you only really need it for web surfing and emails then I would go for a netbook (scaled down laptop) like a samsung NC10.
Try shopping around at Ebuyer above, and there are other good sites around like www.laptopsdirect.co.uk (http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk) and www.dabs.com (http://www.dabs.com)
Vista is the soon to be replaced operating system on the laptop like windows XP before it.
It is changing soon to Windows 7 but some laptop deals give a free upgrade to this when released. I wouldn't worry too much about it, I would give it 6 months to a year for them to iron out the bugs in it first. I have been using an evaluation copy of it and its not that different to vista.

[kittun]

Hi!

I'm looking to buy a quick and reliable laptop to last me through 4 years of university and i've been told by friends that the Sony Vaio range is a pretty good one. I have my eye on the Sony Vaio NW11Z/T model which on ebuyer.com is £804.19 but on BT Shop is £780.83. As a newbie, i can't post links but is there something missing from the BT Shop specification to make it this price? Is there somewhere else I could get it cheaper? If you think i'd be better off with a totally different laptop, please let me know as i'm not too techno-savvy! Thanks :)

[weemissy]

thanks a lot chili, sorry but really clueless about this, just know the make but does look similar to that one:o.
I looked on the dabs.com website (couldn't get on the other 2 because of my computer - thats another story) and liked the look of the laptops - but still don't have a scooby about which one. We know what we are looking for this laptop to do, but not in IT language
so........
which are good makes?
is it wise to buy a used one?
what software and security does she need to get started? and is this separate?
She already has wireless connection for an old PC she has never used - so would be wanting to use this
Mum is elderly so doesn't really want a really small screen
needing it to email, surf, maybe copy cd, or dvds, and other basic stuff - letters etc
Really sorry about all the questions but don't want to buy a 'pig in a poke' :confused:
thanks

[chili2001]

Hi!

I'm looking to buy a quick and reliable laptop to last me through 4 years of university and i've been told by friends that the Sony Vaio range is a pretty good one. I have my eye on the Sony Vaio NW11Z/T model which on ebuyer.com is £804.19 but on BT Shop is £780.83. As a newbie, i can't post links but is there something missing from the BT Shop specification to make it this price? Is there somewhere else I could get it cheaper? If you think i'd be better off with a totally different laptop, please let me know as i'm not too techno-savvy! Thanks :)

Hey there,
The Sony does indeed look like a nice laptop but you are paying extra for the name. You have to ask yourself do you really need a blu-ray player? And are you going to use it to play high spec games on? No, then you can do without the posh graphics card. If you do need all that stuff then you can still find a more powerful laptop for less money.
However, if I was you and had £800 to invest in a laptop for uni you could be smart and buy 2 for less!
No, i'm not crazy. Hear me out.

Firstly this one: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168884 at £449.94 has the same CPU and RAM as the Sony but smaller hard drive (still 250gb so big enough). This is a good powerful "leave at home" laptop to use for typing up work in the evening and watching films, music etc.

Then a nice little light netbook with a good 8 hour battery life to carry around with you to work on (laptops are heavy!), on a daily basis: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150183 Samsung NC10 at £288.86(shop around for cheaper) (MS Office works fine on it) and you can keep your work on it synced with your main laptop using the brilliant (and free) dropbox @ www.getdropbox.com (http://www.getdropbox.com)

Lastly a good back up drive will protect all you hard work music, photo's and films: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140807 at £47.99 (again shop around for best price).

Total cost £786.79. See, two laptops and a back up drive for the same cost as the Sony. http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon7.gif

[chili2001]

thanks a lot chili, sorry but really clueless about this, just know the make but does look similar to that one:o.
I looked on the dabs.com website (couldn't get on the other 2 because of my computer - thats another story) and liked the look of the laptops - but still don't have a scooby about which one. We know what we are looking for this laptop to do, but not in IT language
so........
which are good makes?
is it wise to buy a used one?
what software and security does she need to get started? and is this separate?
She already has wireless connection for an old PC she has never used - so would be wanting to use this
Mum is elderly so doesn't really want a really small screen
needing it to email, surf, maybe copy cd, or dvds, and other basic stuff - letters etc
Really sorry about all the questions but don't want to buy a 'pig in a poke' :confused:
thanks

Hmmm, one persons "good make" is another persons poor one! Personally Any company you have heard of is a good place to start. Acer, HP,Toshiba, Sony, Compaq and Fujitsu Siemens are good in my view. I hate Dell and Advent.
I would stay away from buying a used one if you don't know what your looking for. You could end up getting ripped off!
This one isn't bad and has a 15.4" screen so a good view: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844
HP 550 Laptop, Intel Core 2 Duo T5670 1.8GHz, 160GB HDD, 2GB RAM, 15.4" BrightView TFT, DVD±RW Lightscribe Writer, Bluetooth, SD Card Slot, Vista Home Premium, Office Ready (60 day trial or 25 uses)*Free Cloud Wi-Fi* at £349.98

As for software, I would immeadiatly uninstall all the "free trial" software you get on a new laptop. If its only for surfing and emails get a free anvirus program at www.download.com (http://www.download.com) like AVG FREE or AVIRA. If you need word processing software you will need to get Microsoft Office which costs around £50-60 for the basic version or buy a secondhand copy from somewhere (make sure it has a valid licence key). Or again you can get a totally free office software suite at www.openoffice.org (http://www.openoffice.org) If you shop around there is very little software you have to pay for but only download it from a trusted source like download.com.

All new laptops have a wi-fi (wireless) card built into them so that would be fine to use with your existing router.

[weemissy]

Thanks again chili you have been a great help, do really like the look of some of these on line. Could I just ask one more teeny tiny question - if she wants to shop online will she need to buy one of the security packages they spoke about in PC world?
many thanks again

[chili2001]

Thanks again chili you have been a great help, do really like the look of some of these on line. Could I just ask one more teeny tiny question - if she wants to shop online will she need to buy one of the security packages they spoke about in PC world?
many thanks again

Thats the trouble with pc world. they make you feel like you "have" to buy their extra's. Makes me sick. So no you dont have to buy the security packages, I can thouroughy reccomend Ebuyer. You can buy what you want without the hard sell. http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon7.gif

[weemissy]

Thanks chili:beer:

[weemissy]

chili really sorry to be a pest:o but really like the HP550 and is much cheaper than on the HP site. can't attach a link but would you cast your eye on one for sale on the John Lewis site - eMachines laptop product code 82711127. Completely understand if you don't have time - thanks anyway

Amazon have an emachine hard drive 160, 1GB Ram for a good price - would we be better with the higher spec one?

[chili2001]

chili really sorry to be a pest:o but really like the HP550 and is much cheaper than on the HP site. can't attach a link but would you cast your eye on one for sale on the John Lewis site - eMachines laptop product code 82711127. Completely understand if you don't have time - thanks anyway

Amazon have an emachine hard drive 160, 1GB Ram for a good price - would we be better with the higher spec one?

I personally wouldn't reccommend it. It only has a old style Celeron CPU which can run hot. And also only Vista basic the cheapskates! The newer Core 2 duo CPU's like in the HP are much better and are also more energy effecient. As for the Amazon deal I wouldn't go for anything with less than 2gb of RAM as Vista won't run propelly. I also don't know a lot about Emachines, good or bad!
As a rule of thumb, set yourself a spending limit (Say £350-£400) and then look for the best spec you can find for the cash. CPU: Intel core 2 duo T**** (the higher the number, the more powerful the processor).
Then, the amount of RAM. Again the higher the better. Min 2Gb.
Harddrive space would vary depending how generous the manufacturer is usually ranges from 120gb to 500gb for that sort of cost.
Everything else comes as pretty much standard. Usually Windows Vista Home Premium operating system. A DVD/CD recorder, Webcam, Wi-fi and memory card reader. Anything else on top of this see as a bonus.
You also have to be careful with the model numbers as the makers will release different spec laptops under the same model code so make sure the details match up. If a deal looks to good to be true, it usually is!

[weemissy]

Thanks chili :beer:

[kittun]

Ah! Totally awesome advice Chili! Faultless - I think I'll take you up on that! Very many thank yous!

[chili2001]

Glad I could help! http://images.moneysavingexpert.com/images/forum_images/icons/icon7.gif

[TaBunny]

Hi can't anyone help me find a laptop for my daughter, for internet use and doing some word pro for homework, I really want it to be under or as close to £300 as poss prefer xp but vista if have to

[snow-ball]

Hi, was wondering if someone could tell me if this laptop is any good for me at all.
I need it for general internet surfing and typing up college work and need a dvd drive.
Any help will be greatly appreciated as i'm really not clued up on things like this. I've got upto £300 max at a push to spend on it if thats any help :rolleyes:
Sorry i can't do a link to it yet but if you go on ebay and put 260402418784 in as item number it should come up.

[chili2001]

Hi, was wondering if someone could tell me if this laptop is any good for me at all.
I need it for general internet surfing and typing up college work and need a dvd drive.
Any help will be greatly appreciated as i'm really not clued up on things like this. I've got upto £300 max at a push to spend on it if thats any help :rolleyes:
Sorry i can't do a link to it yet but if you go on ebay and put 260402418784 in as item number it should come up.

Its not that bad for the price, but the CPU is a little slow and its always a gamble buying a refurb no matter what they say about a guarantee. Its still Ebay! I would say if you stretch to £350 you could get a better overall (brand new) laptop like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844

[snow-ball]

Its not that bad for the price, but the CPU is a little slow and its always a gamble buying a refurb no matter what they say about a guarantee. Its still Ebay! I would say if you stretch to £350 you could get a better overall (brand new) laptop like this:




Hi, thanks for quick reply, yeah i know what you mean about ebay! That one does look a fair bit better than the one i was looking at and could stretch to £350 for that one so will prob order that one.
Thankyou for your help, your briliant!!!! :T

[Mandark]

Hi can't anyone help me find a laptop for my daughter, for internet use and doing some word pro for homework, I really want it to be under or as close to £300 as poss prefer xp but vista if have to
Hi there.

What Laptop magazine which I buy from time to time thinks the Toshiba Satellite L300 series (entry level model) is one of the best around the £300 mark. You'll get a slowish processor, although it's still better than those ones in little netbooks, 2Gb RAM needed for Vista and a smallish, by today's standards, 160 Gb hard drive. But it gives you full laptop power meaning it will run full screen video (unlike many similarly priced netbooks and the like) for £310 (+£10 delivery). And much better than anything from emachines. You might find some new L300s cheaper if you do a search.
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asp/versions.asp?rewrite=Toshiba_Satellite_Pro_L300-1FK_Laptop_with_2GB_RAM_PSLB9E-02U003EN2GB&pagetype=version&page=

[jimamberdog]

Hi,

This is going to sound really thick, I'm looking for a laptop for work, which is mainly at home, but need to escape from the kids to a quiet room. I will need wireless connection, which I think I have through Orange Livebox? I think that I will need at least 2Gb to run some of the software I have to use and MS office etc. My question is, what is the difference between Gb Ram and Gb Hard drive. It seems that laptops have small i.e. 1-8 Gb Ram but much larger Gb Hard drive. Will I need say 4 Gb Ram to run these software programs or will a Reasonably large Gb Hard drive suffice.
Sorry to be such a technophobe, but I don't want to go into PC World and show my ignorance and end up with something that does not suit my needs. :confused:

[chili2001]

Hi,

This is going to sound really thick, I'm looking for a laptop for work, which is mainly at home, but need to escape from the kids to a quiet room. I will need wireless connection, which I think I have through Orange Livebox? I think that I will need at least 2Gb to run some of the software I have to use and MS office etc. My question is, what is the difference between Gb Ram and Gb Hard drive. It seems that laptops have small i.e. 1-8 Gb Ram but much larger Gb Hard drive. Will I need say 4 Gb Ram to run these software programs or will a Reasonably large Gb Hard drive suffice.
Sorry to be such a technophobe, but I don't want to go into PC World and show my ignorance and end up with something that does not suit my needs. :confused:

Its not a silly question if you don't know!
A lot of people can get confused between the size of the RAM (Random-access memory) and the size of the hard drive.
I've seen many people go to throw their computer out because it has become almost unusably slow and when I sugest a simple RAM upgrade to speed things up they tell me that there is plenty of space left in the hard drive!
Basically, the RAM is a volatile type of memory which will store all your running programs and processes while the pc is running. Once the power is switched off all infomation is lost.
This is why a pc with little RAM will peform slowly because when it runs out of physical RAM it will use the hard drive as "virtual RAM" which slows it even more!
The hard drive is just a vessel that holds the operating system and all your other programs, documents and media. This differs from RAM as the information is not lost when the power is switched off.
I would say that a minumum of 2gb of RAM is sufficent to run Vista and your programs unless you have any heavy duty editing software. You can add usually up to 4gb depending on your laptop but Vista will only reconize 3gb on the 32bit version. Get the biggest hard drive you can for your cash, but an external USB hard drive could be added easily if you have a lot of photo's and music. Good to backup on as well.
Lastly, please DONT go to PC World. They have a very agressive sales technique and will try and sell you a hundred things you don't need.
Try looking at these computer online specialists and you won't go wrong: www.ebuyer.com (http://www.ebuyer.com) www.dabs.com (http://www.dabs.com) and www.laptopsdirect.co.uk (http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk)
Let me know if you need anymore help? :beer:

[chili2001]

If anyone wants to see how their CPU mesures up under testing have a look at: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7+%40+9750+%40+3.33 GHz
Makes interesting reading, notice there is no AMD chips in the top 21! They really need to sort themselves out to give intel a run for their money!
Damm. Now I want an Intel i7 975 not cheap at nearly £800! :eek:

[mark*mark0]

Hi all,

wonder if anyone can reccomend a good medium - high spec gaming laptop ??

Obviosuly looking to spend as little as poss :p but i realise that they are not cheap !


many thanks Mark

[jaydeeuk1]

Hi all,

wonder if anyone can reccomend a good medium - high spec gaming laptop ??

Obviosuly looking to spend as little as poss :p but i realise that they are not cheap !


many thanks Mark

Aldi do a decent budget one.

£499

http://www.rboffers.com/computers/16-multimedia-notebook-499-aldi-26463.html/

Core 2 duo T6500, 4gb ram, 320gb HD, geforce GT220M, 8 cell battery

More budget ones...
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/GRADE_A1_-_Acer_Aspire_6530G_Laptop_A1-LX.AUS0X.142/version.asp



Acer do a few decent ones for under £600 too,
http://www.simplyacer.com/Acer_Aspire_5536G_638744.html
http://www.simplyacer.com/Acer_Aspire_7735G_645491.html

or higher end (£800 +)
http://www.simplyacer.com/Acer_Aspire_8930G_638742.html

http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asp/versions.asp?rewrite=MSI_GT729-253BK-E_Laptop_GT729-253BK-E&pagetype=version&page=

There are hundreds of other choices too. Value for money, the aldi one at the top is pretty good. Graphics chipset around performance of a geforce 9600.
I would avoid laptops with full HD screens and anything less than a real top of the range card as you will not be able to play in that native resolution, and graphics may look stretched when trying a lower resolution. For a laptop capable of gaming at full HD resolution on latest games, you would need to spend upwards of £900, like the MIS one in the last (£1279)

[mark*mark0]

Thanks Jaydee,

I think im gonna be looking at the later reccomendations what does everyone think of the dell Dell Studio XPS 16 ? that is currently on offer ?

I really like the look of the Dell Alienware M17x :D but i can't realy justify the cost :rolleyes:


thanks Mark

[wazza]

Looking for a laptop with around 17" screen for my sister. Max price £400. My 12 year old nephew will use it for surfing etc while the family will use it for watching movies via DVD etc so it need not be fancy.

Thanks

[beefster]

I can get a Lenovo N500 PDC 4GB 320GB DVDRW VHP with the following spec for £384 through my companies discount scheme, I am being told its a cracking deal???

My daughter already has a Lenovo and likes it... tempted but would like a more informed opinion please....

Specifications

Audio Input Type Microphone

Audio Output

Audio Codec CX20561 Compliant Standards High Definition Audio Type Sound card
Battery

Cells 6-cell Installed Qty 1 Technology Lithium Ion Cabinet (Chassis)

Built-in Devices (AB) Bluetooth aerial Stereo speakers Wireless LAN aerial Cache Memory

Installed Size 1 MB Type L2 Cache Card Reader

Supported Flash Memory Cards (AB) Memory Stick Memory Stick PRO SD Memory Card xD-Picture Card Type 4 in 1 card reader Dimensions & Weight

Depth 25.7 cm Height 3.7 cm Weight 2.7 kg Width 35.9 cm Display (Projector)

Colour support 24-bit (16.7 million colours) Diagonal Size 15.4 in Display Feature (for SD) VibrantView Display Resolution Abbreviation WXGA Max Resolution 1280 x 800 Monitor Features Glossy VibrantView Technology TFT active matrix Widescreen Display Yes Header

Compatibility PC Country Kits United Kingdom Localization English Manufacturer Lenovo Model 4233 Packaged Quantity 1 Product Line Lenovo 3000 N500 Input Device

Type Keyboard Touchpad Mainboard

Chipset Type Mobile Intel GL40 Express Data Bus Speed 667 MHz Miscellaneous

Colour Black Silver Compliant Standards ACA BSMI CCC CE CER CISPR 22 Class B CSA C22.2 No. 950 FCC Part 15 B IEC 60950 MIC MPR II NOM RoHS UL 60950 VCCI Class B ITE Features Administrator password Hard drive password Power-on password Security lock slot (cable lock sold separately) Modem

Features V.92 upgradable Max Transfer Rate 56 Kbps Protocols & Specifications ITU V.90 Type Fax / modem Networking

Compliant Standards IEEE 802.11a IEEE 802.11b IEEE 802.11g IEEE 802.11n (draft) Data Link Protocol Bluetooth Ethernet Fast Ethernet IEEE 802.11a IEEE 802.11b IEEE 802.11g IEEE 802.11n (draft) Type Network adapter Wireless LAN Supported - Yes Wireless NIC Intel - Link 5100 Wireless Protocol 802.11 a/b/g/n (draft) Bluetooth Notebook Camera

Camera Type Integrated Sensor Resolution 1.3 Megapixel Optical Storage

Enclosure Type Integrated Type DVD-Writer Optical Storage (2nd)

Type None OS Provided

Type Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Power Device

Form Factor External Frequency Required 50/60 Hz Nominal Voltage AC 120/230 V Processor

64-bit Computing Yes Clock Speed 2.16 GHz Features Enhanced SpeedStep technology Execute Disable Bit capability Intel 64 Technology Manufacturer Intel Multi-Core Technology Dual-Core Processor Number T3400 Type Pentium RAM

Configuration Features 2 x 2 GB Form Factor SO DIMM 200-pin Installed Size 4 GB Max Supported Size 4 GB Memory Specification Compliance PC2-5300 Memory Speed 667 MHz Technology DDR2 SDRAM Service & Support

Type 1 year warranty Storage Controller

Serial ATA Interface Serial ATA-300 Type Serial ATA Storage Floppy Drive

Type None Storage Hard Drive

Capacity 320 GB Serial ATA Interface Serial ATA-150 Spindle Speed 5400 rpm Type Portable Storage Removable

Type None Supported Battery

Max Supported Qty 1 System

Hard Drive(-s) Total Capacity 320 GB Notebook Type Notebook Video Output

Graphics Processor / Vendor Intel GMA 4500M ------------------------------

I'm not a gamer, will be used for general home office, home video and picture work and surfing the net mainly. General family use.
Would pref a larger screen but het... seem's a good package otherwise??

Ta for looking.

[jaydeeuk1]

Seems a pretty good deal to me and will be more than adequate for your needs. Could get better spec for less £££ but then this is a Lenovo so will be better built than most.

[Gravesendgirl]

Just seen this on the Comet website and have a voucher for 10% off as well so was wondering if someone could give me some advice on whether this would be a good buy, don't know what to look for with the spec other than RAM of over 2GB :confused:

TOSHIBA L300-29X


Product description

An outstanding price for this 15.4 inch Toshiba L300-29X dual core laptop, featuring a huge 4GB memory and 250GB hard drive storage.
Product detail

Here are the details.

Like to know more? Rollover the Information icon for more details on a product feature.
Brand TOSHIBA
Screen size 15.4 inches
Processor Intel Celeron Dual Core
Intel Processor Star Rating Intel 1 star processor
Processor model number T3000
Processor speed 1.8 GHz
Processor bus 667 MHz
Processor cache 1 MB
Memory (RAM) 4 GB
Storage (hard drive) 250 GB
Storage (hard drive) Type SATA
Operating system Windows Vista Home Premium
Wireless networking standard 802.11b/gGigabit LAN NoFinger print reader NoUSB 2.0 slots 3Firewire NoMedia card slots NoBuilt-in bluetooth NoBuilt-in webcam YesBuilt-in TV Tuner NoSpeakers StandardBattery life Up to 2 hoursLaptop weight (kg) 2.5 kgPremier Collection NoOther features

Supports Double layer & Dual Format +/- recordingWired networkingDial-up modem included20 / 0.9watts :in use/powered-down power consumption


Sorry am a new user so can't post links yet!

Is reduced from £499.99 to £359 until 2nd Sept

Thanks very much

[Mandark]

Thanks Jaydee,

I think im gonna be looking at the later reccomendations what does everyone think of the dell Dell Studio XPS 16 ? that is currently on offer ?

I really like the look of the Dell Alienware M17x :D but i can't realy justify the cost :rolleyes:


thanks Mark
What Laptop magazine rates Dell Studio & Studio XPS laptops very highly. I think you'll be fine with the XPS 16 but if you up the spec from the default £749 it starts to get expensive quickly.

[Mandark]

Just seen this on the Comet website and have a voucher for 10% off as well so was wondering if someone could give me some advice on whether this would be a good buy, don't know what to look for with the spec other than RAM of over 2GB :confused:

Sorry am a new user so can't post links yet!

Is reduced from £499.99 to £359 until 2nd Sept

Thanks very much
That's pretty good. I've said elsewhere that What Laptop magazine rates the L300 series. I note that Tesco is offering a cheaper version of the model - L300-2DR. It's got a much weaker celeron processor so may have better battery life but most other things should be similar - £298.
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.206-2983.aspx

[Mandark]

I can get a Lenovo N500 PDC 4GB 320GB DVDRW VHP with the following spec for £384 through my companies discount scheme, I am being told its a cracking deal???

My daughter already has a Lenovo and likes it... tempted but would like a more informed opinion please....

I'm not a gamer, will be used for general home office, home video and picture work and surfing the net mainly. General family use.
Would pref a larger screen but het... seem's a good package otherwise??

Ta for looking.

Seems a pretty good deal to me and will be more than adequate for your needs. Could get better spec for less £££ but then this is a Lenovo so will be better built than most.
As jaydee says, Lenovo make good solid business machines. They bought IBM's PC division. The N500 entry level machines are only £375 and have features which aren't standard with other laptops in the range such as built in bluetooth, decent webcam and good 4-5 hour battery life. They don't skimp on features. They always do well in reviews. I was looking at one for myself!

[Mandark]

Looking for a laptop with around 17" screen for my sister. Max price £400. My 12 year old nephew will use it for surfing etc while the family will use it for watching movies via DVD etc so it need not be fancy.

Thanks
17" screens for £400 is tricky but there are some. There's the Compaq CQ70-220EM at PC World. It's low spec even for the price band and Vista Basic is mean but it should do the job for you at £350.
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/009906

If you dropped the screen size down to 15-16 then a whole range of decent laptop become available in the £350-£400 price range.

This one from emachines is pretty decent spec wise for the money - £391 - 17.3" Intel Dual Core T4200, 2 Gb RAM, 250 Hard drive but the laptop may not be built to the same standard as a Compaq or an Acer or a Toshiba.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168953

Hope that helps.

[wazza]

17" screens for £400 is tricky but there are some. There's the Compaq CQ70-220EM at PC World. It's low spec even for the price band and Vista Basic is mean but it should do the job for you at £350.
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/009906

If you dropped the screen size down to 15-16 then a whole range of decent laptop become available in the £350-£400 price range.

This one from emachines is pretty decent spec wise for the money - £391 - 17.3" Intel Dual Core T4200, 2 Gb RAM, 250 Hard drive but the laptop may not be built to the same standard as a Compaq or an Acer or a Toshiba.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168953

Hope that helps.

was thinking of this one

http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/home/Laptops/laptop-inspiron-17/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-inspiron-17&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&ref=lthp

[COF]

Having just accidently smashed the screen of my year-old Compaq (well, stepping on it), I need to get a new laptop, yet don't have masses to spend. I would say I am looking at spending £300 max.

I'm looking for something around the 15" mark (or better), Windows Vista Home Premium or XP (I'd rather not Home Basic), 2GB ram (consider 1GB if the price is good enough), 160GB hard drive minimum, and an ok-ish graphics card (I know that anything around this price will be low end, so I guess I'm looking for the best of a bad bunch). Also, in regards to prosessor, I would very much prefer a dual-core processor, not a single core.

Am I asking too much for less than £300 or should I be able to find something at this?

EDIT: Just come across this refurbish Medion for £270.




Genuine Microsoft® Windows Vista® Home Premium
Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo processor T5250

1.5GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, FSB 667

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 based on PCI-Express technology
High definition audio with 2 integrated loudspeakers
15.4" TFT WXGA widescreen colour display with 1280 x 800 pixels

16:10 format for optimized DVD playback

8x Multi-Standard DVD-/CD-Writer with DVD-RAM and Dual Layer support

DVD±R/±RW/±R DL/-RAM +CD-RW+DVD-ROM

160GB hard disc drive
2GB DDR II RAM
Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945
Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g with up to 54Mbit/s
10/100 Mbit Fast Ethernet LAN port
V.90 modem incl. modem connection cable
Fingerprint sensor
Integrated and Microphone array
Integrated 4in1 card reader
External AC adapter
Li-Ion battery


I'm informed that a "Core 2 Duo" processor is superior to a dual-core, although I don't understand why exactly.

[newz]

I've been looking at the Dell Inspiron 1545 with an Intel Celeron Dual Core T3000 processor, one laptop has 4GB Ram and 160Gb hard drive whilst the other has 2GB Ram and 250 GB hard drive, can anyone advise which would be better? It's basically for surfing, emails, downloading music etc nothing too demanding.

Thanks!

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=HDP1&l=en&m_30=136643&oc=N0054510&rbc=N0054510&s=dhs


http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054502&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756&acd=a32642544f5ca5c042ce9dab13dd4018

[happychappy69]

as the title says - I'm considering buying a laptop (my first, I'm downsizing my house to a caravan and need the space) and could do with some advice.

The machine will need to have a card reader and be eligible for the window7 upgrade

It'll be primarily used to run CS2 and surfing - but I do tend to run several applications at once - I've a poor attention span

here's a couple I've been considering

Acer Aspire 5536-643G

Compaq Presario CQ60-420SA

I'll consider all possibilities - am trying to future proof as much as possible

thanks for all replies

[JDPower]

I've been looking at the Dell Inspiron 1545 with an Intel Celeron Dual Core T3000 processor, one laptop has 4GB Ram and 160Gb hard drive whilst the other has 2GB Ram and 250 GB hard drive, can anyone advise which would be better? It's basically for surfing, emails, downloading music etc nothing too demanding.
Depends on your needs. If you need lots of hard drive space for downloaded movies and music go for the bigger hard drive (and have the option of upgrading the RAM yourself if needed in future). If you don't need the HD space go for the 4GB RAM one and have the resultant improved performance (and have the option of buying an external hard drive for storing stuff on if you need more space in future)

[Mandark]

was thinking of this one

http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/home/Laptops/laptop-inspiron-17/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-inspiron-17&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&ref=lthp

If you're starting with the lowest spec system from £349, then try and bump up the processor to the most that you can afford then you should be quids in. Didn't realise they were starting the Inspiron 17 at such a low price. That's not too bad.

[Mandark]

Having just accidently smashed the screen of my year-old Compaq (well, stepping on it), I need to get a new laptop, yet don't have masses to spend. I would say I am looking at spending £300 max.

I'm looking for something around the 15" mark (or better), Windows Vista Home Premium or XP (I'd rather not Home Basic), 2GB ram (consider 1GB if the price is good enough), 160GB hard drive minimum, and an ok-ish graphics card (I know that anything around this price will be low end, so I guess I'm looking for the best of a bad bunch). Also, in regards to prosessor, I would very much prefer a dual-core processor, not a single core.

Am I asking too much for less than £300 or should I be able to find something at this?

EDIT: Just come across this refurbish Medion for £270.

I'm informed that a "Core 2 Duo" processor is superior to a dual-core, although I don't understand why exactly.
Let's start with processors. Intel's older dual core processor is two separate processors working together. The newer Core 2 Duo chip has the two processors (or cores as they are known) together on the same piece of silicon. Therefore communication between the two cores is much quicker. The Core 2 Quad processor is essentially a linked pair of Core 2 Duo chips. Core i7 chips have four cores all on the same piece of silicon, which is why they're the fastest chips of all.

The Medion laptop that you've identified has a reasonable spec for the money. You could get that new plus more spec for another £100 though.

[Mandark]

as the title says - I'm considering buying a laptop (my first, I'm downsizing my house to a caravan and need the space) and could do with some advice.

The machine will need to have a card reader and be eligible for the window7 upgrade

It'll be primarily used to run CS2 and surfing - but I do tend to run several applications at once - I've a poor attention span

here's a couple I've been considering

Acer Aspire 5536-643G

Compaq Presario CQ60-420SA

I'll consider all possibilities - am trying to future proof as much as possible

thanks for all replies

I'd get the Acer for its 3 hour battery life alone. I'd also take a look at the Lenovo N500 which is referred to a page or two back in this thread. Take a look at the Toshibas under £400 as well.

But I guess if you're doing photo editing and running multiple applications then you want as powerful processor as you can get in a laptop under £400. That's likely to be Intel T6400 Core 2 Duo or T5750 C2D.

[bylromarha]

I've been looking at the Dell Inspiron 1545 with an Intel Celeron Dual Core T3000 processor, one laptop has 4GB Ram and 160Gb hard drive whilst the other has 2GB Ram and 250 GB hard drive, can anyone advise which would be better? It's basically for surfing, emails, downloading music etc nothing too demanding.

Thanks!

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=HDP1&l=en&m_30=136643&oc=N0054510&rbc=N0054510&s=dhs


http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054502&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756&acd=a32642544f5ca5c042ce9dab13dd4018

Just bought this (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756) Dell Inspiron 1545

Core 2 Duo processor, 4GB RAM, 250 GB, free upgrade to windows 7, £399 inc shipping and VAT. Offer ends tomorrow. Quidco 5% too.

[ssccootttt]

Dell Inspiron 1545

Core 2 Duo processor, 4GB RAM, 250 GB, free upgrade to windows 7, £399 inc shipping and VAT. Offer ends tomorrow. Quidco 5% too.

Glad i checked out this thread, i think thats the one for me too, my budget is 400 and that pretty much is the best spec i can find for the money. :T

Also the offer has been extended to 9th Sept too

[pickledtink]

I was going to get a refurb as guided by my son who works in IT but as he now isn't speaking to me I'm lost.
Decided I'd better get a new laptop instead hoping for not much more than £300.00. Just need for office - word, ecxel etc . WIFI already included so don't have to faff around like my old one with dongle and installing it etc. Also hoping for on board dvd player at least so can watch one if stuck on lousy plane or whatever. I need it pretty light as will be mainly used whilst travelling out of the UK to keep in touch re bookings etc for my small business. Have always stuck with XP on home office PC but everything seems to be coming up as Vista so a bit woried about that.
I've come down to 2.
One lots of HD but vista basic and never heard of the make. The other much less HD but free upgrade to Windows 7 and Toshiba. Don't really want screen any bigger than these.
Can anyone advise me? Or suggest something else?
grateful for any replies. I'm getting a headache having been scrutinising this screen for the best part of last 3 days.
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_Satellite_Pro_L300-26P_Laptop_PSLB9E-03V003EN2GB/version.asp

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5081581/c_1/1|category_root|Office%2C+PCs+and+phones|14418968/c_2/2|cat_14418968|Laptops+and+mini+laptops|14419039.h tm (http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5081581/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7COffice%2C+PCs+and+phones%7C144 18968/c_2/2%7Ccat_14418968%7CLaptops+and+mini+laptops%7C1441 9039.htm)

[pickledtink]

....or maybe this?http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844#

[pickledtink]

Without any response I'm leaning towards the Toshiba, It seems Vista is the operating system to go anyway but the HD capacity on this looks kind of weedy, Would that really matter for what I want to use it for?

I realise I'm looking to spend very little but I'm not exactly roling in it so if any of you knowledgeable persons wouldn't mind sparing 5 minutes of youe super multi megawhtist moments I'd be grateful.
If not I daresay it would be uttely dreadful if all your fingers fell off and you had to operate your fabidoozy machine with your ever so snooty noses.
In a bad mood? Moi? Yup.

[JDPower]

Without any response I'm leaning towards the Toshiba, It seems Vista is the operating system to go anyway but the HD capacity on this looks kind of weedy, Would that really matter for what I want to use it for?
Definitely the Toshiba IMO. Has the best spec and 120Gb hard drive is plenty unless you'll be downloading lots of video clips, movies, music etc (mine has 120Gb HD and only actually using 40Gb of that)

[chili2001]

....or maybe this?http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164844#

I usually direct people to this one, has a better spec than the Toshiba and is one of the best value for money laptops around at the moment.

[beefster]

As jaydee says, Lenovo make good solid business machines. They bought IBM's PC division. The N500 entry level machines are only £375 and have features which aren't standard with other laptops in the range such as built in bluetooth, decent webcam and good 4-5 hour battery life. They don't skimp on features. They always do well in reviews. I was looking at one for myself!

Been away.. come back and thought i would buy it and its dropped another £20 to £361 :rotfl::T:T:T

[pickledtink]

I usually direct people to this one, has a better spec than the Toshiba and is one of the best value for money laptops around at the moment.

Thanks very much. I'd pretty much decided to follow your advice although I liked the included fre upgrade to windows 7 with the Toshiba.
I see some laptops have built in web cams and would like to set up skype ( sp?) so I can see and talk whilst away. Is it easy enough to just buy one and install as they're small enough? I just saw this one doesn't have one included. Sorry if these questions seem dumb . I really have fallen way behind on what can be done these days.:o

[mike_the_bike]

I usually direct people to this one, has a better spec than the Toshiba and is one of the best value for money laptops around at the moment.

I agree with you about this in terms of the spec and the price. The only downside is that it does not come with a free or nearly free upgrade to windows 7.0 when its launched in Oct.

I'm just wondering whether after Windows 7.0 is launched all these Vista machines will end up with large discounts to clear stocks.

I actually ended up buying one of these from Aldi! . I really think having a 3 year guarantee on a laptop is worth having.

http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2827_10747.htm

[romany]

Been away.. come back and thought i would buy it and its dropped another £20 to £361 :rotfl::T:T:T
Hi can you tell me where you've seen it for this price as considering getting one of these. Thanks

[m_shahin]

Hello, I'm looking for a laptop. Budget is £500-£600. Less if possible.

I'm looking at one with an Intel Core 2 duo processor with the number at least t/p 6000 or more. At least 2 ghz.

At least 3gb ram and 256mb dedicated graphics.

Decent wireless n card. Vista premium/ultimate. At least 300 gb hard drive SATA.

Prefer it if it is available with interest free optional. Screen size doesn't matter.

I've found some from Laptops direct. I've heard that they're not any good.

Thanks

[newz]

I usually direct people to this one, has a better spec than the Toshiba and is one of the best value for money laptops around at the moment.


I agree this laptop has a pretty good spec but as it doesn't come with free Win 7 upgrade I was wondering how much it would cost to upgrade, any ideas?

Also as it comes with 2GB ram is this sufficient to run Vista 32 bit or would it be better to upgrade to 4Gb ram?

Thanks in advance, some of these days I'll actually make a decsion on which laptop to buy!!

[venomsst]

I have been looking around for a laptop for the past month and have been to every site I can think of. Just in case I missed something I thought i'd ask you guys first. The laptop has to have a gpu equivalent or better than the radeon 4650m.

The best deal i've found so far is from pcspecialist and it give you 4gb ddr3 ram, core 2 duo 2.0 ghz processor and a 4650 gpu for £550 if you customize it yourself and don't select an operating system.

I will probably opt for the above system shortly unless any of you out there know of any cheaper options.

It seems that it's hard to find any decent cheap laptops in the UK that are able to play games yet the US is flooded with them. I was tempted to import one but I don't fancy sending it back if it has a fault.

I appreciate any help you can offer.

[Jaffa.]

The best deal i've found so far is from pcspecialist and it give you 4gb ddr3 ram, core 2 duo 2.0 ghz processor and a 4650 gpu for £550 if you customize it yourself and don't select an operating system.



Post number 3215 (http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?p=24735059#post24735059) has a Dell Inspiron 1545 Core 2 Duo processor, 4GB RAM for £399 and I think the offers still on till 9th Sep.

[pickledtink]

I agree this laptop has a pretty good spec but as it doesn't come with free Win 7 upgrade I was wondering how much it would cost to upgrade, any ideas?

Also as it comes with 2GB ram is this sufficient to run Vista 32 bit or would it be better to upgrade to 4Gb ram?

Thanks in advance, some of these days I'll actually make a decsion on which laptop to buy!!

*Sigh* Me too. I think an upgrade from what I've seen is going to be roughly £70.00 so the Toshibas I've looked at offering it as included as free update for laptops at or just above £300.00 seem the best option . However there's a belief /rumour/train of thought / speculation doing the rounds that all the Vista laptops will dramatically fall/plummet in price once Windows 7 is launched due about end of October, Which leaves me personally in a complete mess because I'm leaving UK about mid October and must have working set up I understand with all my stuff loaded by then. Argghhhh!!!!!

[happychappy69]

I'd get the Acer for its 3 hour battery life alone. I'd also take a look at the Lenovo N500 which is referred to a page or two back in this thread. Take a look at the Toshibas under £400 as well.

But I guess if you're doing photo editing and running multiple applications then you want as powerful processor as you can get in a laptop under £400. That's likely to be Intel T6400 Core 2 Duo or T5750 C2D.
Many thanks Mandark, laptop technology is an enigma to me, processors, discrete cards, memory (ddr2, ddr3) and all the hype leaves my head spinning - when I was a lad :-) it used to be AMD or intel - wasn't life simple. anyway the Lenovo looks very interesting and I'm now off to look at Toshibas.
BTW do you know of any machines that have T5750 or T6400 processors in my price range and what difference do these numbers make in actual speed - would I notice the difference?

[Spudnik]

Hey guys,

I'm after a laptop but don't really know what I'm looking for. I'll be using it for watching videos online, downloading music, listening to music on Spotify, using iPlayer and generally browsing the internet quite heavily, as well as watching DVDs. I'll also need it for the usual word processing/spreadsheet use etc.

I have a budget of up to £500 but would obviously like to spend less if possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[bylromarha]

Many thanks Mandark, laptop technology is an enigma to me, processors, discrete cards, memory (ddr2, ddr3) and all the hype leaves my head spinning - when I was a lad :-) it used to be AMD or intel - wasn't life simple. anyway the Lenovo looks very interesting and I'm now off to look at Toshibas.
BTW do you know of any machines that have T5750 or T6400 processors in my price range and what difference do these numbers make in actual speed - would I notice the difference?

I'm not an expert,. but the one I've bought was £399 (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756) with Core 2 Duo T6500 DDR2. I don't have a clue what these things mean, but do know that its a fast processor, being in high end cpu list on cpubenchmark (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+T6500+%40+2.10G Hz). Still have no clue what DDR is! I do know thought that the 4Gb ram is great and the 250Gb is more than adequate for my needs!

This one was also recommended (http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/store/cur_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0537279411.125234804 8@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdadeiemkejhmcflgceggdhhmdgmj.0&category_oid=&sku=392917&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null) on one of the previous techie threads, and is currently in stock, but they apparently go quickly if you'd like one. At £390 (+ quidco) with core 2 duo T5800,4 Gb ram, 500Gb hard drive, I guess it isn't hard to see why!

[Spudnik]

I can get the Dell Inspiron 15 (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=DOD&l=en&oc=N0054508&rbc=N0054508&s=dhs) with:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T6500
4096MB RAM
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD4330
500GB (5400RPM) Serial ATA Hard Drive
6-cell battery

For £455.03 delivered, plus I get £19 via either quidco or topcashback. Is that reasonable?

[m_shahin]

I can get the Dell Inspiron 15 with:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T6500
4096MB RAM
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD4330
500GB (5400RPM) Serial ATA Hard Drive
6-cell battery

For £455.03 delivered, plus I get £19 via either quidco or topcashback. Is that reasonable?
What is quidco/topcashback and is there any money involved on my side?

[Spudnik]

What is quidco/topcashback and is there any money involved on my side?

Quidco (https://www.quidco.com/) and Top CashBack (http://www.topcashback.co.uk/) are both cashback websites. There's no charge to join or use the service, although Quidco deducts £5 from your earnings every year as an admin charge. Although it's always worth checking before you go through with the transaction, Top CashBack generally matches the cashback offered by Quidco for each merchant and doesn't charge this annual fee.

[Mandark]

Many thanks Mandark, laptop technology is an enigma to me, processors, discrete cards, memory (ddr2, ddr3) and all the hype leaves my head spinning - when I was a lad :-) it used to be AMD or intel - wasn't life simple. anyway the Lenovo looks very interesting and I'm now off to look at Toshibas.
BTW do you know of any machines that have T5750 or T6400 processors in my price range and what difference do these numbers make in actual speed - would I notice the difference?
No problem happychappy. I think there's little difference in performance between the lower end processors unless they're at their limit it's 3D gaming or video editing.
I'm not an expert,. but the one I've bought was £399 (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756) with Core 2 Duo T6500 DDR2. I don't have a clue what these things mean, but do know that its a fast processor, being in high end cpu list on cpubenchmark (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+T6500+%40+2.10G Hz). Still have no clue what DDR is! I do know thought that the 4Gb ram is great and the 250Gb is more than adequate for my needs!
I can get the Dell Inspiron 15 (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=DOD&l=en&oc=N0054508&rbc=N0054508&s=dhs) with:
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T6500
4096MB RAM
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD4330
500GB (5400RPM) Serial ATA Hard Drive
6-cell battery

For £455.03 delivered, plus I get £19 via either quidco or topcashback. Is that reasonable?
I think the custom Dells are good at the low end. You can get a lot of power for your money.

[nanatopsy]

Just bought this (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756) Dell Inspiron 1545

Core 2 Duo processor, 4GB RAM, 250 GB, free upgrade to windows 7, £399 inc shipping and VAT. Offer ends tomorrow. Quidco 5% too.


Anyone know if this is new or refurbished? Also have spent hours, days, weeks looking for a budget laptop/netbook and my head is spinning.:rotfl:
Son won't have a landline and need internet access, so what must I look out for? Just barely got to grips with speed and memory!!!!

oops meant this one! http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Toshiba_Satellite_Pro_L300-26P_Laptop_PSLB9E-03V003EN2GB/version.asp

[Jaffa.]

It's new and their both good laptops.

[Spudnik]

No problem happychappy. I think there's little difference in performance between the lower end processors unless they're at their limit it's 3D gaming or video editing.


I think the custom Dells are good at the low end. You can get a lot of power for your money.

Okay, thanks. It's unlikely that I'll use the laptop for gaming, but I will use it quite heavily for most other processes so I want a fast machine. Do you think that I need the dedicated graphics card? If not, for £40 less I can get the Inspiron 1545. The 1545 also has a 250GB HDD rather than 500GB, but I don't think I really need 500GB anyway. So it's mainly a question of whether it's worth spending the extra £40 for the graphics.

[Millionaire]

Word of Warning: This 'Free' upgrade to Windows 7 might actually not be free. Make sure you read the small print or FAQ's on shipping/pricing of the different manufacturers.

I spotted Toshiba are charging £27.90 costs, for the 'free':rolleyes: Windows 7 Upgrade.

In regards to the Laptops, that Dell someone linked to, Dell 1545 with the Intel T6500 Core 2 duo is an excellent price at £399 IMO. I haven't seen that decent processor, that cheap anywhere.

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756

However just remember it does not have a webcam or Dedicated graphics if you require them and the 4 cell battery does not last that long so keep that in mind.

You can upgrade it, however if you need to upgrade more than one thing then it might be better to go for the £479 one as it then becomes a better buy which has a..Webcam, dedicated graphics, bigger hardrive(500gb instead of 250gb), bigger capacity battery(6 cell), Wireless 'n'

If you spec the £399 one to the £479 spec then it costs about £588;) Obviously it all depends if you need the extra stuff.

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&kc=DOD&l=en&oc=N0054508&rbc=N0054508&s=dhs

[happychappy69]

Many thanks bylromarha
not surprising that the acer was sold out - have found these three at laptops direct (am not allowed to post links as I'm a newbie), so I'd appreciate it if you could pass your expert? eye over these three.

Lenovo 3000 G530 model no. NSH24UK

Lenovo 3000 G530 model no. NSH29UK

Lenovo N500 model no. NS75SUK

I look forward to your or anybody else's feedback on these machines

[kayleighj-xo]

I'm looking for a laptop for university, therefore will be mainly using it for the internet, downloading and listening to music, storing photos and microsoft office, I dont want anything fancy, just something quite cheap but reliable.

What are people's opinions on the 'Toshiba L300-2DR M900 2GB 250GB 15.4" Laptop' from Tesco, it is £319 I think, apologies for not being able to post a link

Alternatively I was considering the Dell Inspiron 15, as I don't really want to spend over £350

Thanks for any help I may receive :)

[bylromarha]

Just bought this (http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=N0054504&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756) Dell Inspiron 1545

Core 2 Duo processor, 4GB RAM, 250 GB, free upgrade to windows 7, £399 inc shipping and VAT. Offer ends tomorrow. Quidco 5% too.

It arrived today and am typing on it now.

VERY nice piece of kit and have made OH jealous as the processor speed far exceeds the 4 yr old PC.:D

Highly recommend it.

[rose28454]

any ideas on a good price for this laptop

AMD Phenom/Intel i5 processor, with 4GB/8GB DDR3 RAM and probably 1GB graphic card

prices seem to be about 800 but 600 is nearer my budget
ta

[Millionaire]

I think this Toshiba is a bargain

http://www.dabs.com/products/toshiba-satellite-pro-l300d-20r-athlon-x2-ql-64-2gb-160-dvd---rw-15-4--wxga-vista-home-premium-5JXN.html

[easilyamused]

We're thinking of getting a laptop to replace the monstrous old tower hubby has had for the last umpteen years.

As we're not in any urgent rush though, is it generally better to wait until Christmas/New Year to buy this sort of thing? Are there liable to be better deals on? I'm also wondering if it's better to wait until after Windows 7 is released so that whatever we buy already has it on and we won't have to faff around with obtaining and installing upgrades...

Any thoughts?

[grumpycrab]

I think this Toshiba is a bargain

http://www.dabs.com/products/toshiba-satellite-pro-l300d-20r-athlon-x2-ql-64-2gb-160-dvd---rw-15-4--wxga-vista-home-premium-5JXN.html

Am tempted with this. Except I hate AMD. But its a 2.1GHz CPU so its not going to be TOO slow... And with £5.60 off with Quidco...

[karlgr]

Any ideas if this is any good? Want it to last me at least 3 years at university for graphics (photoshop) and watching iplayer and tv etc..

http://www.laskys.com/computing/laptops_and_pdas/laptops/acer_as6930g_644g25.html

:)

[MTW]

This looks a great price for the spec.

Lenovo N500 Laptop, Core 2 Duo T6400 2.00GHz, 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 15.4" WXGA, DVDRW DL, Bluetooth, Vista Home Premium £411.99 from ebuyer.

Under serious consideration for offspring going to Uni next week.