Has any body heard of AIRNERGY

[frosty]

Hi,I was wondering if anyone here(or knows someone)has tried an airnergy machine.The brochures are impressive,my mother has COPD and I thought it might help her.I am not asking for medical advice I would love to find someone who has tried it.


www.biolifesolutions.co.uk (http://www.biolifesolutions.co.uk)

[Dave101t]

wow, thats some b0llocks your looking at buying.

[Kaz2904]

The thing that instantly springs to my attention is that it states that 20 minutes show significant results. On a different page it has the recommended time period on it as 15 minutes. Why is that? A little bizzarre that they can't get their literature to agree with itself or support itself.

[msfoxymax]

Hi,I was wondering if anyone here(or knows someone)has tried an airnergy machine.The brochures are impressive,my mother has COPD and I thought it might help her.I am not asking for medical advice I would love to find someone who has tried it.


www.biolifesolutions.co.uk (http://www.biolifesolutions.co.uk)


I looked at this for my neighbour 2 weeks ago and nearly fell of the chair at the price :eek::eek::eek::eek: The basin packahe is £2800 and goes up to above £4000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not what I would call an impulse but without trying it first :rotfl:

[frosty]

Thanks Kaz2904,I know they play on your emotions,and try to make out they can cure a lot of things.This is why I am trying to find people that have had positive results.I found some positive things posted from a trial that was carried out but I am trying to find out who funded it,I have contacted the lung foundation to see if they have heard about it.I know it costs a lot of money but if it would help I would buy it.

[De dude]

It is an astonishing machine. I went from being shattered after cutting my brothers grass to painting an entire house two weeks later. I had super strenght that I have not had for years. I used the machine and the power was nearly instant. When I overdo it I get pretty debilitating Hypothyroidism and it knocks me out, sometimes for months.I rode 66 miles last night ,35 of them racing and today I'm shattered but if I still had access to the machinre I would not have suffered at all. I am extremely fit but the hypo still kicks in sometimes , those times being when I overextened physically but in the month I used it I never once had a probelm, mental clarity was amazing, the fog lifted totally.
I did not have the bicycle with me to see how strong it would have me but compared to the twelve hour days I ended up doing cycling is fairly easy, if I had the £3500 it would pay for itself very quickly. It comes across as hyperbolic bouleshiit but the video and what I write here is entirely true. They are available to use but not easy to find locally and after a few days you should see the results. All my lessions, spots, lumps and such disappeared while I was on it , my skin problems associated with the hypo cleared up completely and all jobs needing doing got done pretty much straight away. It is awful to think that some who read this will think I'm either mad or a salesman but what can I do, if you have a specific question fire away. Most people do not believe me but I intend to become a top competitor in what I do, hard work combined with this amazing machine, the hitch being no money, I spent £1200 on a second hand Cervelo frame on sunday, it was a one off chance .

[frosty]

De dude,did you loan a machine from somewhere?
I would love to try one to see if it works before I buy one,I have been trying to find a company that loans them out.Which machine did you use? They said the 5 unit is the best one.

[frosty]

I looked at this for my neighbour 2 weeks ago and nearly fell of the chair at the price :eek::eek::eek::eek: The basin packahe is £2800 and goes up to above £4000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not what I would call an impulse but without trying it first :rotfl:


I agree they are very expensive,but if they work they would be worth it.
I wish I could find more people that have used them.

[jeremy78210]

I have an Airnergy Wellness unit which has been used around 20 time, it was for my mother who had COPD & sadly passed away 3 months ago. The unit is for sale & I think it sells for £2900, I'm looking for around £1600 for it. If anybody is interested, send me an email

[bungle4x4]

thats a reet laugh, fantastic, people will pay stupid amounts of money for stupid things

thats a load of boIIocks that is

[Bronnie]

How does this differ from Oygen Concentrators, which have been available to COPD patients on the NHS for at least the last 10 years?

[mcoppel]

I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and am looking for one of these second hand, if anyone has one or knows of one please, please let me know.

[mr_rush]

A lot of people posting here for first time - very dodgy.

All I can say is look at NICE or British Thoracic Guidelines (BTS): this quackery doesn't feature anywhere.

That's because it doesn't work and only preys on people's fears. Please don't waste your money on this nonsense.

[cutemax]

Yes i've had one 10 weeks and no improvement yet although i've been adviced to wait at least 3 months to feel a difference. So far i'm very dissapointed. have COPD and RA.I use it 3-5 times every single day even took it on holiday. I have the Airnergy + profesional costing £4.650.

[giantmutantbroccoli]

I suspect very strongly that all the claims of health benefits that originate from real people are down to the placebo effect, because the science behind this ridiculous thing does not stand up. Oxygen is oxygen, unless it's ozone. There is no magical energized oxygen that your body absorbs more effectively. I think, from the scatty explanations they give that what it does is generate ozone. Normal oxygen is in the form of O2, two oxygen atoms stuck together. That's the oxygen you take out of the air to breathe. Ozone is in the form of O3, that's three oxygen atoms stuck together. Ozone is not as stable, and readily breaks down into O2 (which you can breathe) and single, free oxygen - free radicals, basically. Now the presence of free radicals does indeed stimulate the production of enzymes that can indirectly offer some protection against things that cause cancer. The things that cause cancer however are the free radicals! That's like setting fire to a building so the sprinklers will come on, in order to protect yourself against fire.


Here's a study they've apparently had done to test it's effectiveness in treating neurological illnesses:

http://www.biolifesolutions.co.uk/news.aspx?ItemID=dc43bb8d-5bf4-4a9e-b0ee-5f3b2a75e611

Conclusion:
The results permit the (provisional) conclusion that inhaling energised air may, firstly, bring about a marked improvement in the subjective state of health and, secondly, lead to a tendency for arterial blood pressure to fall in neurological patients.


A translation for the non-science inclined:

People may feel better or healthier in general after using this machine, but this is most likely due to the placebo effect. Basically if you believe something will make you feel better, then it will - a bit. People showed a lower blood pressure, indicating a reduction in stress, but that's a psychological effect - there is NO evidence of any physical effect.

Meditation has the same effect, and it's a hell of a lot cheaper. Steer well clear of this psuedo-scientific garbage.

[De dude]

De dude,did you loan a machine from somewhere?
I would love to try one to see if it works before I buy one,I have been trying to find a company that loans them out.Which machine did you use? They said the 5 unit is the best one.

It depends on where you are, there is a woman in Ipswich with one, she seems very nice, about £15 for half an hour, another one in Muswell Hill at £30 for twenty minutes, the Ipswich girl refers to that as a rip off, sorry I was missing but the site never emailed me to say I had a reply.There are, I believe some in the north of England in some Gym or Health club. My neighbour bought one after using the Muswell hill one twice, the first time he uised it he woke up with a clear head for the first time in years, schizophrenia plus alcoholism and he is very unmanageable. It has changed him a lot, not all for the better. He is easily messed up but it definately works for him. I haven't used it for two months and have permanent sores above my lip in the mousetache area, it is an absolute pain but I don't go to his house anymore, on principle. So yeah, it clears your head, as it did for my old man , problem is, he is often an obnoxious !!!!!! now as I stand up to his 86 year old games, he accuses me of having being a very difficult child , I counter this by asking him if beating a child with doubled up cooker cable for an hour and a half is acceptable.The more I understand what was done to me the more nasty he gets, to try and shut me up. That wont be happening, If you saw what I've written, burn your eyes, he's a pillar of the doubly standardised community I come from but they are all the same. It also transpires that if I don't ride I do get a lot of extra energy but the sores disappeared when the neighbour got the machine and returned after I stopped using it, also the riding was finished , more or less for the season.I have purposely not ridden for four weeks up to today, first time since first using the Airnergy in May this year. I cant shave without a terrible mess being left behind, now I shave every time I start looking homeless, there is a point where you look awful, after two weeks, before and after you are fine

The machine is the £3665 one and it often arrives within two working days. I have the details somewhere but cant find them, it is the mid range one.

There is a guy in Ireland who tried it and his asthma(chronic) was cured so he started some charity shops in Offaly to buy more and my dad contacted him and there was one not being used, just six miles away from our house in Galway. His voice became noticeably clearer and the mind sharper and nastier. I haven't spoken to him since May and don't intend to, but he apparently only uses it three times a week now.

It is pretty obvious to me now, anecdotaly, that it does clear brain fog quite well in all cases I have seen or heard.

The Valkion(family video on youtube) machine is the same, I think also a machine called eng3?I hope this helps, if I rambled , then I congratulate that part of me that couldn't give a ****.

[De dude]

A lot of people posting here for first time - very dodgy.

All I can say is look at NICE or British Thoracic Guidelines (BTS): this quackery doesn't feature anywhere.

That's because it doesn't work and only preys on people's fears. Please don't waste your money on this nonsense.

I think you are very dodgy, don't know why , just like you don't, even though you think you do. It works both ways or neither depending on how far the totem pole has impaled.