Laser Teeth Whitening Advice

[mac123]

Hi
Has anyone heard of or used this company here for the laser teeth whitenng procedure. It seems a lot cheaper then others and also cheaper than the DIY kits.

http://www.sunsetteethwhitening.co.uk/

Has anyone had laser teeth whitening and how does this compare

Thanks

Mac :D

[Toothsmith]

Tooth whitening by people who aren't dentists is illegal, and should be reported to the General Dental Council.


http://www.gdc-uk.org/General+public/Tooth+Whitening

It's cheap for a reason.

No training, probably no insurance, no diagnostic ability, no way to put things right if it all goes wrong.

If you haven't got the money to sort out any problems it might cause, then don't touch with a bargepole. If you have - then save yourself a packet by getting it done properly in the first place.

[pollypenny]

I have used Listerine Tooth Whitening Strips which I buy when I visit DS in the USA. His teeth look great on them, but I'm a bit wary about using too often.

Toothsmith, I wonder what your thoughts on them are? Or, indeed, any commercial tooth whitening products.

[Toothsmith]

Strips like that aren't licensed in this country.

The stuff you can by over the counter here can, at best, be OK at stain reduction, but that's about it.

Some of the ebay or internet stuff can be fake or harmful.

I personally wouldn't trust any of it.

( there is a huge thread on here about tooth whitening. Maybe this could be merged into it?)

[Dan899]

Mac123,

Thanks for the link, after reading their comments page my girlfriend and I have booked in to have our teeth laser whitened at Sunset teeth whitening clinic in Romford. It’s just £74.50 each, that is a huge saving considering my girlfriend paid £480.00 three years ago.

I’ll let you know how we get on!

[Dan899]

Mac123,

It's all good news as both of us have now had our teeth whitened at the Sunset clinic in Romford.

Firstly, WOW the results are amazing and cost us just £74.50 each! That's less than we spent on our meal for two last night. The whole process was explained to us first which made us very comfortable and all their certificates can be seen at the reception including certification from environmental health. While waiting we saw a person who just had the treatment and he was very pleased with the results.

Whilst waiting we also read their comments book which is pretty impressive with people coming from all over the country leaving good comments.

We would highly recommend Sunset Clinic to anyone who wants to have their teeth laser whitened professionally without having to spend too much money. Just wished they were closer to where we live.

Go and experience it, we're sure you too will be very pleased. You can find there website through google by typing in Teeth Whitening Romford.

Dan

[Toothsmith]

and all their certificates can be seen at the reception including certification from environmental health.


A certificate from environmental health is meaningless!

The other certificates on the wall will be as well - they're just pieces of paper.

If there is no registration with the General Dental Council, it's illegal.

I can see that having tooth whitening for £75 sounds very good value, but the place will not have to have the same regulation, and levels of training as a dental practice doing it properly.

It will also not have the same diagnostic abilities, and they will not be able to recognise people who they shouldn't be whitening. People for who the whitening process could make pre-existing conditions worse.

In people like that, the immidiate result will look good still, but it may not be for another few weeks/months before the real damage becomes apparent.

[MoneySavingWhiteningPro]

Toothsmith,
Sorry but I believe you are misleading this forum and bringing in politics that does not belong on here.

Firstly go and re-read the link you posted above and you’ll find it reads….
Quote:
“The GDC believes that it is illegal for non-dental professionals to be offering tooth whitening treatment, and that only dentists, and dental hygienists and dental therapists on the prescription of a dentist, can carry out the procedure.” Unquote;

It’s just an opinion of the GDC. That does not make it law.

Quote:
“and levels of training as a dental practice doing it properly.” Unquote;

Properly! There are more complaints about dentists carrying out laser teeth whitening and causing harm/pain than any other form of teeth whitening or laser teeth whitening professionals.

People come to this forum to find out about genuine money saving ideas and when they share their experiences they should not be belittled for their efforts, and especially with inaccurate comments.

WhiteningPro

[Mrembo]

Do you trust tooothsmith or money saving whitening pro?.Toothsmith has been of much help in this board and I highly doubt what whitening pro is saying.
Whitening pro read this http://www.gdc-uk.org/Current+registrant/Latest+information+for+registrants/Statement+on+tooth+whitening.htm

[Toothsmith]

Toothsmith,
Sorry but I believe you are misleading this forum and bringing in politics that does not belong on here.

Firstly go and re-read the link you posted above and you’ll find it reads….
Quote:
“The GDC believes that it is illegal for non-dental professionals to be offering tooth whitening treatment, and that only dentists, and dental hygienists and dental therapists on the prescription of a dentist, can carry out the procedure.” Unquote;

It’s just an opinion of the GDC. That does not make it law.

Quote:
“and levels of training as a dental practice doing it properly.” Unquote;

Properly! There are more complaints about dentists carrying out laser teeth whitening and causing harm/pain than any other form of teeth whitening or laser teeth whitening professionals.

People come to this forum to find out about genuine money saving ideas and when they share their experiences they should not be belittled for their efforts, and especially with inaccurate comments.

WhiteningPro


I stand by my comments.

The GDC uses 'belives' in the legal sense of the word, not in the 'I believe in faries' sense. They 'believe' it because there is no legal precedent yet.

They have and are successfully closing down illegal practices alongside Trading Standards though, and no-one has had the courage to fight their case in court yet to overturn this 'belief'.

As to number of complaints:-

Firstly, where are the figures to back this up.

Secondly, maybe it's because people CAN complain if something doesn't go to plan at the dentists. We have a professional body, we have professional insurance.

I notice you call yourself a 'tooth whitening professional'. What is your professional organisation called? Who regulates it? What are the qualifications? Chances are if someone does have a complaint agains a beautician, it will just be met with a shrug of the shoulders and a 'whatever'!

[MoneySavingWhiteningPro]

Mrembo,

Toothsmith may well have given sound advice in the past, but that does not give Toothsmith the right to rubbish comments from other posters and make inaccurate comments. I did glance at the link you provided….AND!

Toothsmith,

You can stand by your inaccurate statements all you want.

Quote:
“They have and are successfully closing down illegal practices alongside Trading Standards though, and no-one has had the courage to fight their case in court yet to overturn this 'belief'” Unquote;

Is that why the number of teeth whitening places have rocketed from 1000 to 3000 in the last 3 years!

Quote:
“As to number of complaints:-

Firstly, where are the figures to back this up.Unquote;


The facts can be found at the following site You will then see FACTS in pages and pages of complaints where dentists around the world have blistered patients gums, burnt their lips and left countless of patients with highly sensitive teeth.

Since I’m new here I'm not allowed to post the link so, go to
teethwhiteningreviews. com and search under “zoom teeth whitening system reviews”.
www. teeth whitening reviews .com (No spaces)
.
That’s where you’ll find all the facts to back up my statement 100% that
“.There are more complaints about dentists carrying out laser teeth whitening and causing harm/pain than any other form of teeth whitening or laser teeth whitening professionals”

Finally I didn’t come here to fight, I just wanted to point out your errors and your abrasive style of posting of talking down to people who had contributed.

We specialise in just teeth whitening in West London with two clinics that offer teeth whitening at very competitive prices and are fully insured. If this angers you than why don’t you compete with companies like us by giving people real value for money and a great experience instead of using scare mongering tactics as displayed in your previous posts.

Have a nice evening.

WhiteningPro

[frivolous_fay]

Finally I didn’t come here to fight, I just wanted to point out your errors and your abrasive style of posting of talking down to people who had contributed.

Sounds a lot like a fight :confused:

[Toothsmith]

Is that why the number of teeth whitening places have rocketed from 1000 to 3000 in the last 3 years!


No - that's because Trading Standards and the GDC are overstretched, and more places are opening than can be closed down. It's not criminal, which is why police don't get involved (Like dodgy DVDs being sold at car boot sales) but it IS illegal.


The facts can be found at the following site You will then see FACTS in pages and pages of complaints where dentists around the world have blistered patients gums, burnt their lips and left countless of patients with highly sensitive teeth.

Since I’m new here I'm not allowed to post the link so, go to
teethwhiteningreviews. com and search under “zoom teeth whitening system reviews”.
www. teeth whitening reviews .com (No spaces)

That’s where you’ll find all the facts to back up my statement 100% that
“.There are more complaints about dentists carrying out laser teeth whitening and causing harm/pain than any other form of teeth whitening or laser teeth whitening professionals”

Do you mean here?

http://www.teethwhiteningreviews.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?id=204

All I can see is an American site (where the rules are different) talking about one system (Which I have told people on this site may not be the best) and about 10 people saying they've had side effects from it.

This is not 'facts' this is hearsay. If you were 'professionally' trained, you would know the difference.

Either way, I would agree with James, the administrator on that site, who states in about post 12



Go with the "Gold Standard" in teeth whitening - get custom trays made at your dentist and have him give you bleaching gels for them. This will provide you with the best return on investment.


We specialise in just teeth whitening in West London with two clinics that offer teeth whitening at very competitive prices and are fully insured.

Would you care to also correct my questioning of your 'professional' status by telling me what training you have done, and what training your average staff member has done in order to be able to offer this 'professional service'?

Who regulates you?

I notice that on the site you recommend, those who have lips swell and gum problems 'went back to their dentist' and were prescribed things, or taken care of.

There is no system of tooth whitening that is totally safe and could not give an adverse reaction to somebody. If one of your clients had a bad reaction, what 'care' would you be qualified to give??

I'm all for 'competition', but do your punters really know how little you really know about what you're doing??

[sydneyr]

Please can someone tell me how to post?! I've spent a half hour and still can't find out how to post a new thread! Thanks.

[GonzoAston]

On the right hand side of the board is a drop down box, called forum jump. Pick the forum board you want to post a new thread in.

Once you click on it, it will open another page on that board. Then click on "Post a new Thread" at the top left hand corner (Just uner, main site, forum, user CP etc..)

[berdina86]

so there's all this arguing, my partner and i are thinking of booking at sunset this weekend, so what's the verdict on this place???

[Eagle_1]

so there's all this arguing, my partner and i are thinking of booking at sunset this weekend, so what's the verdict on this place???

Listen to Toothsmith, he knows what he's talking about :cool:

[MataHari]

Hi to everyone in this forum and thread.:hello:

Sunset Teeth Whitening Clinic (no spaces)

I would like to give the feedback to the above mentioned “clinic”in Romford for those who asked about it in the past. One of my acquaintances from another forum suggested we take advantage of their current deal 2 people for laser whitening for the price of 150, so 75 p. each.

I looked through their web site, which looked professional to me and having read a couple of positive reviews in here (particularly from Dan899 in this thread) decided to give it a go.

We came there, greeted by an Asian looking man (name didn’t register). He gave us forms to fill in in the waiting area. It smelled of oriental fragranced sticks and somehow just didn’t give you that “clinic” impression. There were around 10 booths with closed doors there and as it seemed that he was on his own, I wondered how he managed several people at a time.
My acquaintance didn’t seem to be bothered about the whole aura , she had done laser procedure in the past at a different place. So I decided perhaps I was overthinking.

Then I asked the guy who’s going to perform the whitening. He said himself. So I asked a couple of questions regarding the cosmetic fillings I had and the percentage of peroxide he used (which was 35%). He didn’t ask once whether I had any gum problem or other conditions, didn’t say how long procedure’s gonna take, etc. The whole attitude was “no problem” bordering “whatever”. He requested money up front in cash and didn’t issue any receipts to us.

Then we went to two different dingy little cubicles. I had special dental spreader fitted into my mouth + cotton sticks! (I mean normal cotton sticks from Boots) that he used for gum protection. The laser lamp was put over and lit on and then he walked away.
I felt really vulnerable with this gag in my mouth unable to speak and left without supervision. I knocked on the wall when I felt unpleasant shooting pain in one of my teeth. The person only materialized in 3 minutes or so and looked annoyed, said it’s normal. In the end I was given a toilet tissue to wipe the gel off myself and pointed to the bathroom, so I could rinse my mouth. He only did 4 upper and 4 lower front teeth, I could see about a couple of shades difference on them, but nothing dramatic. My friend didn’t see the difference in pigment at all and said she experienced highly unpleasant needle type pains also.

When I requested the receipt was told that he closed the cash desk now (was 7 pm) and would send it via email ( which obviously never happened).

Although I realize that I should have gone with the gut feeling and walked away despite my arrangement with another person, Toothsmith and other people who posted here before, your advice, as to where I could report this would be much appreciated.

[Mrembo]

Hi to everyone in this forum and thread.:hello:

Sunset Teeth Whitening Clinic (no spaces)

I would like to give the feedback to the above mentioned “clinic”in Romford for those who asked about it in the past. One of my acquaintances from another forum suggested we take advantage of their current deal 2 people for laser whitening for the price of 150, so 75 p. each.

I looked through their web site, which looked professional to me and having read a couple of positive reviews in here (particularly from Dan899 in this thread) decided to give it a go.

We came there, greeted by an Asian looking man (name didn’t register). He gave us forms to fill in in the waiting area. It smelled of oriental fragranced sticks and somehow just didn’t give you that “clinic” impression. There were around 10 booths with closed doors there and as it seemed that he was on his own, I wondered how he managed several people at a time.
My acquaintance didn’t seem to be bothered about the whole aura , she had done laser procedure in the past at a different place. So I decided perhaps I was overthinking.

Then I asked the guy who’s going to perform the whitening. He said himself. So I asked a couple of questions regarding the cosmetic fillings I had and the percentage of peroxide he used (which was 35%). He didn’t ask once whether I had any gum problem or other conditions, didn’t say how long procedure’s gonna take, etc. The whole attitude was “no problem” bordering “whatever”. He requested money up front in cash and didn’t issue any receipts to us.

Then we went to two different dingy little cubicles. I had special dental spreader fitted into my mouth + cotton sticks! (I mean normal cotton sticks from Boots) that he used for gum protection. The laser lamp was put over and lit on and then he walked away.
I felt really vulnerable with this gag in my mouth unable to speak and left without supervision. I knocked on the wall when I felt unpleasant shooting pain in one of my teeth. The person only materialized in 3 minutes or so and looked annoyed, said it’s normal. In the end I was given a toilet tissue to wipe the gel off myself and pointed to the bathroom, so I could rinse my mouth. He only did 4 upper and 4 lower front teeth, I could see about a couple of shades difference on them, but nothing dramatic. My friend didn’t see the difference in pigment at all and said she experienced highly unpleasant needle type pains also.

When I requested the receipt was told that he closed the cash desk now (was 7 pm) and would send it via email ( which obviously never happened).

Although I realize that I should have gone with the gut feeling and walked away despite my arrangement with another person, Toothsmith and other people who posted here before, your advice, as to where I could report this would be much appreciated.
You can report them to the general dental council i don't know whether your local trading standards might be interested.
the website for the dental council is here http://www.gdc-uk.org/

[jhonny]

how much are you going to spend when you are going to a laser teeth whitening procedure?

[Toothsmith]

Although I realize that I should have gone with the gut feeling and walked away despite my arrangement with another person, Toothsmith and other people who posted here before, your advice, as to where I could report this would be much appreciated.


With them issuing no receipts, then it may not be a bad idea to report this to your local tax office.

In many countries, including ours, the most stringent regulations and enforcement protocols are wielded by the national tax offices!!

Remeber it was 'tax evasion' that finally got Al Capone banged up!!