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choille
13-04-2009, 1:55 PM
I seem to be aching all over - been doing a lot of heavy outside work.
I do take fish oil & Gluscosamine, but don't notice any easing of the stiffness.
Any one got any tips? Would be grateful as I feel ancient rather than being in my late forties.:eek:
Rummer
13-04-2009, 2:01 PM
I do yoga stretches to keep myself supple both before and after I garden and I have found it really beneficial.
torbrex
13-04-2009, 2:03 PM
Do some stretches as Rummer says and cut down the length of time you are out there working.
That's why B&Q make those white plastic chairs, short burst work, then sit.
Lotus-eater
13-04-2009, 2:11 PM
Do the stretching definitely and take it easy, none of us are as young as we were. Take breaks and do lighter work in between stints of heavier stuff.
That's the tip, don't get in that state to start with. You only get one back etc.
choille
13-04-2009, 2:18 PM
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That's why B&Q make those white plastic chairs, short burst work, then sit.[/QUOTE]
:rotfl:
Thanks all.
Any good websites on yoga stretches?
ceridwen
13-04-2009, 7:27 PM
http://www.hathayogalesson.com/
click on "animated yoga postures"
:D
Rummer
13-04-2009, 7:30 PM
I use a DVD by Barbara Currie, the 7 secrets of yoga one as it has a whole load of different sections broken into ten min blocks so you can do as much or as little as you like.
choille
13-04-2009, 7:31 PM
Thanks for that.
Golden Anemone
13-04-2009, 7:38 PM
Nothing wrong with taking some Ibuprofen either - (though I do realise that it's not suitable for everyone). That and a hot bath is my usual cure after overdoing the gardening.
ixwood
13-04-2009, 7:46 PM
A steaming hot bubbly bath is always nice after you've been grafting. :)
Alternatively, garden the lazy/efficient way and cut out all the really hard graft. No dig beds, composting in situ, square foot gardening, growing perennials instead of annuals etc.
Rummer
13-04-2009, 7:52 PM
I have to say I am a huge fan of a hot bath at the end of a hard day in the garden as it means I am not as stiff in the morning.
choille
13-04-2009, 8:12 PM
I live in a caravan - even the mention of a bath gets me depressed. I have contemplated getting an old zinc one from somewhere.
I jiggered my back a few weeks back, so I suppose I've been dashing around trying to catch up - although the weather ws so rubbish I didn't miss much.
I just seem to ache all the time - getting me down.
Rummer
13-04-2009, 8:16 PM
Might be best to see your doctor if you are getting a constant ache as they might be able to do something in the short term that helps in the long term. Hot water bottles or heat bags could be useful to when you are working or resting as they will have a similar action to the bath (just without the bubbles).
Lotus-eater
13-04-2009, 8:17 PM
I just seem to ache all the time - getting me down.
Tbh I know the feeling, I have so many bits of me that seem to be constantly in some sort of pain or discomfort, I think if I was a horse I would be put down.
I'm not that old either, just had a hard life :D
You just must take it easy and only do what you can do. Doing what you have done today was a bit silly knowing about your back. Do some lighter work, but do keep doing work and moving over the next few days, just light stuff.
If you half kill yourself getting the place how you want it, you won't be able to enjoy it anyway,
What's the bed like in the caravan, often a terrible thing for your backs they are.
Raksha
13-04-2009, 8:18 PM
After a hard day at the stables at weekends, I find Ibuprofen and/or paracetamol a big help.
gazza975526570
13-04-2009, 8:57 PM
my tip is either a four pack of lager or a bottle or so of wine!!!
Works for me!
choille
13-04-2009, 9:23 PM
The mattress seems okay - at least it's a sprung one, but the foam filled benches where I sit squint are probably pretty bad posture wise - they seem too low as well.
I'll bring in a canvas fold up chair from the shed and see if that helps.
I don't really like taking tablets unless I have to - just had weeks of anti-inflammataries[sp?] & heavy duty painkillers & didn't like the side effects of those.
Sorry for whingeing - it's just so annoying at the moment.
Thanks all for posting - much appreciated.
I searched on the forum & some seem to like cider vinegar so I'll get some next time I'm away shopping & give that a try.
olly300
13-04-2009, 9:35 PM
Do the stretching definitely and take it easy, none of us are as young as we were.
Doesn't matter on your age.
If your body is not trained up to do that amount and type of heavy work your body will suffer a few hours to two days later.
Plasticman
13-04-2009, 10:33 PM
I seem to be aching all over - been doing a lot of heavy outside work............... Would be grateful as I feel ancient rather than being in my late forties.:eek:
I'm in my mid 30s and feel the same after a full day working in the garden so don't feel too bad about it. :D
As Olly says, it's certainly lack of practice in my case. A reminder to get out in the garden more often (but maybe not in a solid 10 hour block next time :rolleyes:)
choille
14-04-2009, 9:26 AM
Thanks all - I did have an idle few weeks when I put my back out & with the weather being disgusting, so I guess I just went at things a bit too long & too hard trying to catch up.
Rummer
14-04-2009, 9:34 AM
That is exactly what I did last year and I didn't get the chance to prepare my garden for winter so I have had loads to do this year. It is much better to do what you can to prevent the injury in the first place.
Dave101t
14-04-2009, 9:43 AM
aching all over? then do it all again, every other day and soon you will be as strong as an ox!
Rummer
14-04-2009, 9:49 AM
Dave I have been trying that approach but I am still pathetic!
choille
14-04-2009, 10:23 AM
I normally am as strong as an ox that's what's so annoying.
I'll limber up first & not go at it so hard.
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Ted_Hutchinson
14-04-2009, 12:02 PM
I seem to be aching all over - been doing a lot of heavy outside work.
I do take fish oil & Gluscosamine, but don't notice any easing of the stiffness.
Any one got any tips? Would be grateful as I feel ancient rather than being in my late forties.:eek:While both omega 3 from fish oil and glucosamine are anti inflammatory, adipose tissue is a source of inflammation as are omega 6 vegetable oils. You may find it helpful to boost your anti inflammatory status by correcting vitamin d insufficiency (https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/detail.aspx?product_id=18&cat_id=2&subcat_id=0) and eating a low carbohydrate, higher fat diet (http://blogg.passagen.se/dahlqvistannika/?anchor=my_lowcarb_dietary_programe_in)to reduce surplus fatty tissue.
Vitamin d for pain (http://pain-topics.org/clinical_concepts/vitamind.php)
Omega 6 The Devils Fat (http://www.omegasixthedevilsfat.com/)
choille
14-04-2009, 1:05 PM
Thanks Ted - my diet seemns pretty spot on apart from potatoes which I eat every day. There's Vit D in my fish oil supplement 100% RDA, but also outside a lot so must get enough - although it's been a bit dull until this past week or so.
Ted_Hutchinson
14-04-2009, 1:30 PM
There's Vit D in my fish oil supplement 100% RDA, but also outside a lot so must get enough - although it's been a bit dull until this past week or so.Sorry the RDA is way way out.
Dr Davis Heartscanblog ensures all his patients get up to 60ng 150nmol/l (http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/vitamin-d-for-peter-paul-and-mary.html) he finds the average female requires 5000iu and the average male 6000iu His patients live around latitude 43 in a country where milk/cereals are fortified and they get more sun on more days of the year than we do.
If they, on average need 5~6000iu then we, on average will require more.
If you take a postal $40 25(OH)D test (http://www.grassrootshealth.net/d-action)you will be shocked. Then use 5000iu/D for around 90 days then retest and you will know the truth for yourself.
When they checked the 25(OH)D of Omaha, Latitude 40N (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/87/11/4952), outdoor workers, (who spend every working day outdoors all day), they found them to insufficient over the winter. Unless you lay naked at noon for 20~30minutes it is inconceivable that hands/face sun exposure can correct insufficiency.
Look at the chart and you will see how 60ng ~ 150nmol/l provides a safety margin above the level associated with most chronic disease incidence.
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss230/tedhutchinson/th_chronicdiseasepreventionvitamind.jpgDisease Incidence Prevention by Serum 25(OH)D Level (http://www.grassrootshealth.org/_download/disease_incidence_prev_chart_101608.pdf)
choille
14-04-2009, 5:04 PM
I'll get some Vit D tomorrow as I'm off to the shops.
I take oil of evening primrose and notice that that is an Omega 6. This is really complicated......
lostinrates
14-04-2009, 5:15 PM
I live in a caravan - even the mention of a bath gets me depressed. I have contemplated getting an old zinc one from somewhere.
I jiggered my back a few weeks back, so I suppose I've been dashing around trying to catch up - although the weather ws so rubbish I didn't miss much.
I just seem to ache all the time - getting me down.
Have you thought of a small paddling pool? DH and I have used a dinghy as a bath in the past too :T
choille
14-04-2009, 5:23 PM
This is a dreadful confession, but I clean a holiday house tomorrow & they have a bath & I am gonna have one helluva bath after I scrubbed the place clean! I'm that excited.
That's a great idea about the paddling pool.
I'll look at them tomorrow as after the house scrub & bath, we're off to the shops. Are they deep?
Ted_Hutchinson
14-04-2009, 5:53 PM
I'll get some Vit D tomorrow as I'm off to the shops.Sorry you can't buy Vit D effective strength in the shops. I doubt you plan on a days shopping in the USA or Canada. The best you'll find is 1000iu and that works out expensive to take the kind of amount that is going to do any good.
Iherb now foods 5000iu (http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Vitamin-D-3-Highest-Potency-5-000-IU-120-Softgels/10421?at=0) is possibly cheaper if you use one of the Referrer's board (http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=772021&highlight=iherb) however only order 2 pots not 3 as I've previously said as one of those who followed my advice has been stung for customs duty even though the order value was under £18.
I'll post back when my last order arrives to let you know if I get caught.
The link to the other firm BIOTECH in previous post is OK as that is well under £18.
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