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novice money saver
14-02-2006, 7:12 AM
I've been mixing fruit juice with soda water to make the fruit juice go further.

As a result, I'm getting through quite a lot of soda water. I know it contains traces of salt, but apart from that, is it bad for me?

All wisdom greatly received!

thanks
NMS

Toothsmith
14-02-2006, 12:19 PM
It is acidic, and mixed with the fruit juice will form an excellent cocktail for erroding tooth enamel.

Alison_B
14-02-2006, 12:50 PM
You really surprise me there Toothsmith, I would have thought soda water was one of the better things to have.

Toothsmith
15-02-2006, 11:04 PM
The only 'safe' drinks are milk & water.

Everything else does damage to some degree. Fizzy water is acidic - look what CO2 dissolved in rainwater has done to rocks- particularly limestone - over the centuries. And rain isn't fizzy!

The OP said they were drinking 'a lot'. Nothing is bad in moderation, but when I see 'a lot' in relation to fizzy or acidic juices - or even worse, both! - I get worried!!

P.S. I really like your signature, but would be out of a job if it were true!!

tipsychick
15-02-2006, 11:13 PM
Carbonated drinks (imagine from toothsmith's posts above that this does definitely include soda water as well as coke and other fizzy drinks) are linked with bone demineralization, i.e. osteopenia, osteoporosis, etc. which will mean your bones are more vulnerable to fracture as you get older.

I know just straight plain water doesn't sound terribly exciting as your tipple of choice but it's amazing how you get used to it and how refreshing it is whether it's out of the tap, bottled or filtered. (Less said of my red wine habit the better!)

Mado
15-02-2006, 11:18 PM
I know just straight plain water doesn't sound terribly exciting as your tipple of choice but it's amazing how you get used to it and how refreshing it is whether it's out of the tap, bottled or filtered. (Less said of my red wine habit the better!)
and the more you drink it, the more you really need it!!!


(goes for both wine and water :D)

Back on subject, I would assume that plain soda water in moderation is not anywhere as bad as seewt drinks....(Correct me Mr Toothsmith!)

Toothsmith
15-02-2006, 11:35 PM
A fair assumption. Just be aware that it is doing *some* damage.

There is plenty of good stuff in saliva to repair any damage done to teeth. The repair process takes a few hours though.

Problems arise when stuff that damages the teeth is going in at a faster rate than the saliva can repair.

novice money saver
16-02-2006, 10:27 PM
blooming 'eck - glad I asked!

The soda water an attempt to wean me off the red wine tipsychick!

Toothsmith, I bet I know what your job is! Thanks so much for your comments. BTW, I have already had ozone treatment to try to restore the enamel to some of my teeth. My dentist has also recommended "tooth mousse" which apparently works in a similar way but via regular topical treatment.

Thanks everyone for your comments. I love this site!!

Me and my teeth = :D

Toothsmith
16-02-2006, 11:03 PM
Tooth mousse is an excellent product! Perfect for your situation.

I bet your dentist is private with hardware like Ozone in the practice!

novice money saver
16-02-2006, 11:44 PM
yep - my one extravagance!

had nightmare bad dentistry which = crown (no root canal first), crown didn't fit, led to abcess, followed by root canal, followed by 2nd root canal, followed by new crown, which broke, followed by super special reinforced crown - all on one tooth.

Found amazing private dentist, trust him completely.

I :heart: my dentist.

Toothsmith
16-02-2006, 11:53 PM
yep - my one extravagance!

had nightmare bad dentistry which = crown (no root canal first), crown didn't fit, led to abcess, followed by root canal, followed by 2nd root canal, followed by new crown, which broke, followed by super special reinforced crown - all on one tooth.

Found amazing private dentist, trust him completely.

I :heart: my dentist.

Root canals shouldn't always be necessary prior to a crown. A healthy tooth that is just a bit broken should crown and live on afterwards.

Often, teeth that are crowned have been heavily filled first, and sometimes crowning can be the last straw that kills the tooth.

A tooth to be crowned should be thoroughly investigated first for signs of life (Not by making you scream!!) and that life should be preserved if it is there.

Root filled teeth have a shorter life than non-root filled ones,even with a crown on. That is why it is important to keep them alive if possible.

Toothsmith
16-02-2006, 11:54 PM
AFTERTHOUGHT

Sometimes rather bad dentists do POST crowns without root filling first. This is bad, as putting a post into a nerve canal WILL cause problems if the nerve is not removed first. This could be what you were refering to?

novice money saver
16-02-2006, 11:56 PM
i see.
i learnt something today!

unfortunately, the crown did not fit at all so i guess that didn't help to keep the tooth alive.


the abcess bl**dy hurt too!

novice money saver
16-02-2006, 11:57 PM
AFTERTHOUGHT

Sometimes rather bad dentists do POST crowns without root filling first. This is bad, as putting a post into a nerve canal WILL cause problems if the nerve is not removed first. This could be what you were refering to?


what is POST crown?

Sofa_Sogood
17-02-2006, 12:04 AM
It is acidic, and mixed with the fruit juice will form an excellent cocktail for erroding tooth enamel.

I always seem to read your posts after the event Toothsmith :(

;)

So white wine and soda water's doubly bad?:(

Toothsmith
17-02-2006, 12:07 AM
unfortunately, the crown did not fit at all so i guess that didn't help to keep the tooth alive.



Yes that would do it!

People often ask what is the difference between an NHS crown at £60 and a private one at £300+ . I answer less than a tenth of a mm. But that 10th makes ALL the difference!

A post crown is done when there is not enough of the tooth above gum level to attach a crown to. So a metal, or these days snazzy carbon fibre (Private!) posts are put down into the remaining root to support the crown.

They work well for several years, but the roots can be prone to fracturing (more so with metal posts) and a fractured root can only then be extracted - there's nothing more you can do.

Toothsmith
17-02-2006, 12:09 AM
I always seem to read your posts after the event Toothsmith :(

;)

So white wine and soda water's doubly bad?:(

Probably not quite as bad as fruit juice, but yes, it will do some damage.

Depends how much & how often!! ;)

Sofa_Sogood
17-02-2006, 12:13 AM
Probably not quite as bad as fruit juice, but yes, it will do some damage.

Depends how much & how often!! ;)

Too often lately ;) , but thanks :)

Now I'm worrying about my liver and teeth :eek:

;)

beanielou
18-02-2006, 8:57 PM
Now im worried.
Please dont tell me that my one indulgence Innocent smoothies are bad for my teeth-please(as Ive not got good teeth these days-aargh)