Engine/Oil Flush

[XDA]

My Ford Focus TDCI is due its annual service and oil change very shortly.

I am thinking of buying an engine/oil flush to remove all the sludge etc. Will probably either use Wynns or Comma's.

Does anyone else use these products when changing oil. Are there any recommended ones?

Cheers

[goldspanners]

My Ford Focus TDCI is due its annual service and oil change very shortly.

I am thinking of buying an engine/oil flush to remove all the sludge etc. Will probably either use Wynns or Comma's.

Does anyone else use these products when changing oil. Are there any recommended ones?

Cheers

ive used the comma one before,it did take out some black gunk from an old taxi.

[vansboy]

Use these flushes, by all means - but do make sure you FULLY drain the sump!!

You might consider draining & refilling with cheap 20/50 or 15/40 & running that for 1/2 hour, or couple miles up the road, THEN re-filling ith your new, 'proper' oil.

& it's well worth letting it drain for as long as you are able, overnight is best, but not always practical.

You can even jack it, tilting the car one side, then the other, for a REALLY thorough job!!

VB

[Pew Pew Pew Lasers!]

Its a complete waste of money. There is no need to use any such product.

[vansboy]

Its a complete waste of money. There is no need to use any such product.

Not so sure, I'd agree with that - have you seen some of the contaminants that remain inside an engine that hasn't been drained, or flushed, or regularly oil changed??

ESPECIALLY on a diesel!!!

You can't buy this stuff, as a retail customer, http://www.forteuk.co.uk/Advanced_formula.htm but they have a strong following, within the trade.

VB

[mikey72]

I've used them before on diesels, and they work quite well.
I've used them on cars I've bought, then done regular oil changes at 5000 miles.
I don't know if I'd be as thorough draining the sump, just the normal oil change and filter is all I've ever done.

[XDA]

Thanks for the responses.

Vansboy - As much as I would like to leave it drain overnight and run it for a few miles on cheapo oil at change over etc, Im having the oil change done at a garage as part of the annual full service. I just dont have the place to do it myself (Only have on-street parking on a narrow main street) :(

As for the Forte engine flush, I have heard good things about it as well and anyone can get hold of it - It's sold on ebay.

Its here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORTE-MOTOR-FLUSH-THE-BEST-ENGINE-FLUSH-OIL-FLUSH_W0QQitemZ120362502318QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item12036250231 8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORTE-MOTOR-FLUSH-THE-BEST-ENGINE-FLUSH-OIL-FLUSH_W0QQitemZ120362502318QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item12036250231 8&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318)

Cheers all.

[cyclonebri1]

You will find many more people that have the view that using flushing oil can damage an engine than those who praise it, check on any auto forum.

The problem is that yes it does loosen some of the cack in there, but most of it gets stuck in the finer
oilways/galleries etc, and can cause real problems wuth hydraulic tappets and other stuff.

If you feel it needs cleaning flush it using the cheapest suitable grade of oil you can find. This will be cheaper than flushing oil anyway. Run it up to normal working temp, say 10 miles then change to your prefererred oil.

Safest option;)

[Pew Pew Pew Lasers!]

Not so sure, I'd agree with that - have you seen some of the contaminants that remain inside an engine that hasn't been drained, or flushed, or regularly oil changed??

ESPECIALLY on a diesel!!!

You can't buy this stuff, as a retail customer, http://www.forteuk.co.uk/Advanced_formula.htm but they have a strong following, within the trade.

VB

My engine doesn't get drained, or flushed, and the oil is changed between 12,000 and 15,000 miles. There is no sludge in there.

Buying products like this is akin to having colonic irrigation - a waste of money and effectively useless.

[roddydogs]

This went out with the Ark!

[smurf]

Ford do not recommend the use of any oil or engine additives and treatments. This can be found in the owners handbook.

Although as been mentioned by another member, if you do decide to use an engine flush you will need to make sure it is drained fully and ideally run some cheap oil through the engine afterwards to make sure all of the flush has been removed.

[cyclonebri1]

As said by all/most, don't use the stuff at best a waste of pennies, at worst could cost a new engine:A :A :A ;)

[goldspanners]

my mate aquired an old nissan bluebird which had been badly neglected by its previous owner,it was petrol and the engine oil was black,very thick and coming out of the sump in lumps,it hadnt been changed in years, we flushed this out when servicing it,when we came to change the oil the next time there was a massive improvement in the state of the oil that came out of the engine. it looked like used petrol engine oil this time.

[jeannieblue]

Forte fuel treatment is good - but only use if do alot of mileage. Tend to use it on work trucks etc. If mileage is low, don't really see much point. Or just steer clear of supermarket diesel and mixing brands. The additives/mixing of, cause the problems in the diesels.

[XDA]

Thanks for everyone's thoughts. :D :beer:

I went ahead and bought the Forte Engine flush and Forte Diesel Engine treatment for £12 on ebay.

My Focus has done 64k, but I've only had it a few months so Im not sure what sort of oil has been used and how often its been changed. I have previously used engine flush on my Fiat Punto, and its still going strong. After doing some Internet research, I havent came across anyone with probs after using engine flush so I'll go ahead and put it in nearer the oil change.

Cheers all.

[housesitter]

For engine longevity:
short change the oil.

If it's been in there for a while before you start on this new regieme:
"Flush" with a cheap oil, such as Asda's 20W50 and a new filter for a 100 miles. Then change it for the good stuff and a new filter.

I change the oil in my cars every 3000miles. It's a tenner for oil and filter when you buy from motor factors in bulk.
The diesel comes out black whatever you do. The petrol comes out slightly darker.

[cyclonebri1]

Thanks for everyone's thoughts. :D :beer:

I went ahead and bought the Forte Engine flush and Forte Diesel Engine treatment for £12 on ebay.

My Focus has done 64k, but I've only had it a few months so Im not sure what sort of oil has been used and how often its been changed. I have previously used engine flush on my Fiat Punto, and its still going strong. After doing some Internet research, I havent came across anyone with probs after using engine flush so I'll go ahead and put it in nearer the oil change.

Cheers all.


Thats because they are all saving up for new engines:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

I suggest you do a little more research before you go ahead, search engine flush on all the owners club sites

[housesitter]

Careful which owners clubs you search on then:

Our owners club has a guy who works in the oil industry in lubricants.
His wife specifically designs oil for car engines.

If you've ever seen people posting on various car forums about oil with long explainations (and happen to be selling oil as a sieline), they aren't welcome on our forum due to the general BS and twaddle that they tend to post.

Incidently, most people on our site don't use flushes either, on his reccomendations. Those same people also compete in UK motor racing with ridiculously highly tuned engines and generally do rather well.


Obviously, your mileage may vary ;)

[cyclonebri1]

Careful which owners clubs you search on then:

Our owners club has a guy who works in the oil industry in lubricants.
His wife specifically designs oil for car engines.

If you've ever seen people posting on various car forums about oil with long explainations (and happen to be selling oil as a sieline), they aren't welcome on our forum due to the general BS and twaddle that they tend to post.

Incidently, most people on our site don't use flushes either, on his reccomendations. Those same people also compete in UK motor racing with ridiculously highly tuned engines and generally do rather well.


Obviously, your mileage may vary ;)


I think I know the guy you mean, Simon by any chance?

[housesitter]

Different forum. I guess there is more than one then :)

[mikey72]

Careful which owners clubs you search on then:

Our owners club has a guy who works in the oil industry in lubricants.
His wife specifically designs oil for car engines.

If you've ever seen people posting on various car forums about oil with long explainations (and happen to be selling oil as a sieline), they aren't welcome on our forum due to the general BS and twaddle that they tend to post.

Incidently, most people on our site don't use flushes either, on his reccomendations. Those same people also compete in UK motor racing with ridiculously highly tuned engines and generally do rather well.


Obviously, your mileage may vary ;)

Bet my diesel 106 does more miles per engine. (And I use a flush occasionally):smiley:

[cyclonebri1]

Bet my diesel 106 does more miles per engine. (And I use a flush occasionally):smiley:

Keep your personal details out of this:rolleyes:

[housesitter]

Probably does.
I get 50MPG out of my diesel but about 25MPG out of a 2Litre petrol which is usually driven hard.
I used to have a skyline which on a trackday got about 1MPG if you were lucky. A few of us had a mini competition going to see who could get the least MPG :)

[mikey72]

Worst I've ever had was 14mpg from a Rover SD1.