'BCA Auction View' versus 'Manheim Hammer Time'

[cheeky]

I am looking to buy a Volvo XC90 petrol for < £10k and am willing to try the auction sites for an 3 year old ex-lease car if the time is right and nothing pops up before at dealer/private.

Wondered what peoples experience were of 'BCA Auction View' and 'Manheim hammer time' - Will the cars spec be listed to a fine detail and can you search for it - eg "executive" car spec or "DVD" options. Any feeling on which is easier to use? Email alerts?

[Happychappy]

I am looking to buy a Volvo XC90 petrol for < £10k and am willing to try the auction sites for an 3 year old ex-lease car if the time is right and nothing pops up before at dealer/private.

Wondered what peoples experience were of 'BCA Auction View' and 'Manheim hammer time' - Will the cars spec be listed to a fine detail and can you search for it - eg "executive" car spec or "DVD" options. Any feeling on which is easier to use? Email alerts?

Hi Cheeky

This is the kind of info you will get on BCA auction view and only two cars under £10000

HC

VOLVO XC90 2.9 T6 SE GEARTRONIC, 5 Doors, Estate, Petrol, Automatic, Registered 30-11-2004

To be auctioned at Bedford-New Site on 27-11-2008

Registration LR54 SDO Registered 30-11-2004 Colour BLACK SAPPHIRE Mileage 39,773 Equipment*
Maintenance Record * - 4 services to 31k http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif * Service History * - 4 stamps to 31K 02/08 http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Alloy Wheels http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Climate Control http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Compact Disc Player http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Drivers Airbag http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Electric Windows http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Leather Trim http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Passenger Airbag http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Power Assisted Steering http://www.auctionview.co.uk/images/default/detail/btnSqrBullet.gif Stereo

Log Book Log Book Present Location Bedford-New Site

http://www.bcaimage.com/GetDoc.aspx?docType=VehicleImage&default=1&docId=6590085&width=350 (http://javascript<b></b>:PopupWindowDetail('ShowVehiclePopup.asp?width=640&identifier=6590085')) Click link for picture to enlarge

CAP New £36,182 Retail £12,395 Clean £9,900 Average £9,125 Below Average £8,200 Glass's Guide New £40,062 Retail £14,280 Trade £11,280




VOLVO XC90 2.9 T6 SE GEARTRONIC Estate, SILVER, 5 Doors, Automatic, Petrol, 68466 Miles, VAT Qualifying.
RF54SBY (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockDetail.asp?Registration=RF54SBY&QueryStockIndex=4&RecCount=4&Selection=%2FQueryStock%2Easp) Registered 17-12-2004 Nottingham 09-01-2009
New: £36182 Ret: £10750 Cln: £8250 Avg: £7525 Blw: £6700 New: £40062 Ret: £12975 Trd: £9645

[cheeky]

wow - thanks for that!! Def going to sign up and have a mooch. I think the book prices are out of the window at the moment.

Saw on Pistonheads today a auction report - XC90 07 plate, 10k, V8 :D cost £47k, provisional £13000!!!!! Lost over 70% of its value in less than 2 years

[Happychappy]

Good luck ; )

[cheeky]

cheers, bought a few cars over time. Figure i have a reasonable eye for what to look for. mate has a 56 plate D5 so will go over it so i know i am buying a straight one. Seing as the V8 is £5k behind book and dealers are selling them for £22k+, i hope to get something with volvo warranty for <£12k

The v8 is abit mad - t6 more sensible as a family car (esp as i have a decent 2 seater for speed). Head and heart eh?!

[meester]

cheers, bought a few cars over time. Figure i have a reasonable eye for what to look for. mate has a 56 plate D5 so will go over it so i know i am buying a straight one. Seing as the V8 is £5k behind book and dealers are selling them for £22k+, i hope to get something with volvo warranty for <£12k

The v8 is abit mad - t6 more sensible as a family car (esp as i have a decent 2 seater for speed). Head and heart eh?!

blimey, these 4x4s are heavy aren't they?

I have an S80, it has the same engines I believe, 2.5T and 2.9 T6, I was going to say, the t6 is hardly sensible, but then I saw the 0-62, 9.3s. I have the 2.5T (not the T6) and it does 0-60 in 7.2s

Just to add, the fuel consumption on the 2.5T is shocking. While it will do 35mph on the motorway, the 2miles through to get to the gym is done at around 18mpg.

I can only imagine that a T6 in a XC90 is even worse, and the V8 worse still.

[cheeky]

fully aware of its weight/mpg shortcomings - i want a safe car for my family. We both work < 5 miles from home so daily mileage is not an issue. If we have to visit customer sites we have 2 other cars, both 30+mpg (and get 40ppm). 0-60 isnt a worry - have a 2 seater 300bhp beast for that! ;)

If i can get a "exec" spec upto 3 year old XC90 that was near £40k+ new for £10-15k i will be very happy :j

[Cockney Girl]

I have used the Manheim Hammer Time online facility before, I know of them as i live near one of the sites. Bascially you can search for vehicles and download catalogues unlimited within your duration subscription, all vehicles are described mostly with stuff like leather seats or DVD etc, also a great thing that it can do is email you any other veihcles that come in. Anyhow looks like you might of found you car, hope its fab! But if not its worth going to auction as you can save a lot of money but tip take someone who knows about cars I took my brother which helped me.

[Cockney Girl]

I have used the Manheim Hammer Time online facility before, I know of them as i live near one of the sites. Bascially you can search for vehicles and download catalogues unlimited within your duration subscription, all vehicles are described mostly with stuff like leather seats or DVD etc, also a great thing that it can do is email you any other vehicles that come in. Anyhow looks like you might of found you car, hope its fab! But if not its worth going to auction as you can save a lot of money but tip take someone who knows about cars I took my brother which helped me.

[Conor]

i want a safe car for my family.

So you're going to buy something with a far longer stopping distance than a saloon with a higher centre of gravity which makes it unstable on fast cornering and likely to roll over on sudden changes of direction such as those which you'd make in an emergency?

It's certainly an interesting way of looking at increasing safety. Not quite sure it's one I'd be taking.

The Euro nCap test videos show it no better than many saloons. Pedals moved and A pillar deformed in front impact test. However, you'd not have had the accident in the mid sized saloon as you'd have been able to stop quicker or steer out of the way without rolling it.

Only thing is you want to hope you don't hit a pedestrian as you're going to do them a lot of damage - the ncap report saying: bumper and leading bonnet edge are unforgiving.

Full report here:
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/volvo_xc90_2003/160.aspx

[zappahey]

So you're going to buy something with a far longer stopping distance than a saloon with a higher centre of gravity which makes it unstable on fast cornering and likely to roll over on sudden changes of direction such as those which you'd make in an emergency?

It's certainly an interesting way of looking at increasing safety. Not quite sure it's one I'd be taking.

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Only thing is you want to hope you don't hit a pedestrian as you're going to do them a lot of damage - the ncap report saying: bumper and leading bonnet edge are unforgiving.

Full report here:
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/volvo_xc90_2003/160.aspx

I never thought I'd see the day but...

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[vansboy]

Not sure if ALL the information, available to BCA/Manheim account customers, is actually displayed, when general public buy their searches.

Things like average ACTUAL selling prices, achieved, on both sites.

An appraisal, fairly detailed, is often on the vehicles details, in Manheim, too.

If it doesn't, might be worth getting an acount holding Moneysaver, to double check for you.

& you probably wouldn't anyway, but I'd not recommend the buying on line facility - I simply wouldn't purchase a vehicle, without seeing it in the metal!!

VB

[cheeky]

thanks for the "on topic" responses :rolleyes:

Vans - cheers, your right (i have paid for BCA now) you dont get CAP prices, appraisals. Detail CAN include service history, spec or nothing. You can search on the following (see prices not vailable)

Stock Locator Locations (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=Branch)
Makes (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=Make)
Models (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=Model)
Derivatives (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=DerivativeDesc)
Engine Capacities (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=EngineCapacity%5FdL)
Body Types (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=Body)
Doors (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=Doors)
Gearbox Types (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=Gearbox)
Fuel Types (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=Fuel)
Mileages (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=OdoDescription)
Registrations (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=PlateIndication)
Price Ranges
Not Available Live Online Sale (http://www.auctionview.co.uk/StockLocator.asp?ListClause=LoLSale)

[vansboy]

Thought that might be the result - as you do need to be a recognised trader, to obtain Glass's & CAP guides (in theory) & pay them a subscription.

It'd mean breaches of copyrite & other legal wrangles, if this information was made 'open'.

Not that the guides have any REAL indication, as to vehicle values, the way the market is currently!!

VB

[cheeky]

I know! Thinking of the V8 (REALLY get the tree huggers excited!) - heard that a 07 v8 SE spec with 10k went for £13k the other day (unsold though) - thats £5k behind book for a car that was £47k new less than 2 years ago!!!!! :eek:

[themaccas]

Could you be kind enough to have a look at BCA (Bedford or south east) and look for Mini Cooper 1.6 prefer 1 year old (57). Mini garage selling these for around £11.5K. Too much for me at the mo.

Many thanks